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What's the best job?

Ravers

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Big public sector organisations is where it’s at. Easy to hide, pretty much impossible to get sacked from, hardly any accountability due to the massive, multilayered organisations.

I’ve done the whole dream job thing, running a world class shotgun factory and it turned out to be serious hard graft and stress.

Massive brownie points when you told people what you did for a living and there were a few perks like posh parties, a nice clothing allowance and the use of a chauffeur driven Bentley from time to time. But the reality was long hours, zero promotion prospects, constant stress and not a massive amount of money in return.

I now work for a very large, very dull public sector organisation as an engineering manager. I‘m on double what I was at the gun factory and I get twice as much holiday. Massive pension, been promoted 3 times in 6 years and well on my way to further greatness.

And the best part is, it’s a piece of piss. All I do is go to meetings and sign bits of paper. By virtue of not having a northern accent and not wearing a rugby league top to work, people seem to think I know what I’m doing.

They occasionally let me fly drones around the place which breaks up the boredom, but most of the time I’m just sat at a desk doing basic line management stuff. Trying to motivate a team, who are already very well motivated due to earning over double the National average and living in a place where you can buy a 3 bedroom house for 60 grand.

My only beef with it is the lefty woke bollox that’s creeping in to every facet of the working day. Briefs about racism and transgenderism and rainbow flags and shit all over the place.

I don’t give a ****. I hate everyone equally, regardless of gender, race, religion or sexual orientation.
 

David Powell

Old-Salt
As strange as it may sound at the moment, but the NHS is pretty good, Nice Pension, good leave arrangements, some great people to work with and rewarding. Money isnt that great but you can climb the slippery ladder if you have the wherewithal., When i came out i floated a bit then started nursing, never regretted it. the last 6 months have been a bit tough but no chance of getting furloughed or redundant.
 

Bluenose2

Old-Salt
My only beef with it is the lefty woke bollox that’s creeping in to every facet of the working day. Briefs about racism and transgenderism and rainbow flags and shit all over the place.

I don’t give a ****. I hate everyone equally, regardless of gender, race, religion or sexual orientation.

Currently working in a senior interim role at a university, and the level of this is extraordinary - to the point of absolute disbelief amongst the junior staff that anyone might have a different perspective.

Woke only works one-way, it seems.

I'm not sure I can answer the OPs question but I was happiest when I was an archaeologist. Crap money and hard on the body sometimes, but plenty of time to think and not a lot of pressure to deliver any 'targets'.
 

Ravers

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Currently working in a senior interim role at a university, and the level of this is extraordinary - to the point of absolute disbelief amongst the junior staff that anyone might have a different perspective.

Woke only works one-way, it seems.

At my place the general attitude is that it’s just a box ticking exercise foisted upon us by senior management.

The vast majority of the workforce being male, white, working class northerners. No one really pays much attention to it, which makes it all the more irritating.

If we had a racism problem then it’d be a different story and I’d be all over some robust re-education to stamp it out. But I don’t think we do have a problem with any sort of intolerance.

On the whole there is no one to be intolerant towards.

Raising awareness of “black issues” here is as relevant as educating our workforce about the challenges faced by the Native American population in Nevada.
 
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Mufulira

War Hero
At my place the general attitude is that it’s just a box ticking exercise foisted upon us by senior management.

The vast majority of the workforce being male, white, working class northerners. No one really pays much attention to it, which makes it all the more irritating.

If we had a racism problem then it’d be a different story and I’d be all over some robust re-education to stamp it out. But I don’t think we do have a problem with any sort of intolerance.

On the whole there is no one to be intolerant towards.
Recently a very shouty pollie of the left wing persuasion was spouting on about equality in the workforce and demanding sharing of the Public Purse as a minimum start point until she was gently reminded that near 100% of sewage workers were men and that anyone could apply......
 
It comes down to what you are content with. Being a copper is hard work and stressful but I’ve only got to stick it for another 4 1/2 years. Then I’ll have 9 years of police pension on top of 26 years of AFPS 75. No mortgage and to stop myself getting bored I’ll find a job for a couple of days a week.

I’ll have a bit more money coming in than going out which is the basic measure of happiness.
 
At my place the general attitude is that it’s just a box ticking exercise foisted upon us by senior management.

The vast majority of the workforce being male, white, working class northerners. No one really pays much attention to it, which makes it all the more irritating.

If we had a racism problem then it’d be a different story and I’d be all over some robust re-education to stamp it out. But I don’t think we do have a problem with any sort of intolerance.

On the whole there is no one to be intolerant towards.

Raising awareness of “black issues” here is as relevant as educating our workforce about the challenges faced by the Native American population in Nevada.
How
 

no f in beer

War Hero
My last job, Delivering Beer was my best, Drive, stop, unload, drive a bit, stop, load, drive a bit more, drop trailer, fuel up, park up, go home. I did have to open trailer curtains, which was about as phyisical as it got. Evening shift, start at 6pm, so roads mostly quiet.

My current job, being retired, is great, but poorly paid, although i can do Free OU courses
 
My last job, Delivering Beer was my best, Drive, stop, unload, drive a bit, stop, load, drive a bit more, drop trailer, fuel up, park up, go home. I did have to open trailer curtains, which was about as phyisical as it got. Evening shift, start at 6pm, so roads mostly quiet.

My current job, being retired, is great, but poorly paid, although i can do Free OU courses
SWMBO plans to do a MA in History with the OU next year on the basis that she will never earn enough to start paying back the loan for the fees, it's a freebie.
 

no f in beer

War Hero
SWMBO plans to do a MA in History with the OU next year on the basis that she will never earn enough to start paying back the loan for the fees, it's a freebie.

Persackerly what i did, earn £21,500 before any payback, aint never going to happen. i have to say the History course is very socialist, and i had numerous 'debates' about it, and if she knows a bit of history, she is not going to learn a lot more! The first 3 parts of the course are more about 'how to' study and write essays, rather than content
 
I guess the best job is the one where you enjoy what you are doing, get job satisfaction, earn a reasonable wedge and look forward to going to work every day. Obviously the specific role and level of responsibility will be different for each individual because we all have different interests, abilities, knowledge, skills, aims and outlooks.

Most of us that served will have enjoyed our time overall, even allowing for the really shit days, because of the experiences we had and friends we made along the way. Some will have gone on and had successful careers after their time in green/navy blue/polyester and their second or third careers may surpass their time in the mob and for others nothing will be able to match it. I've had a small number of different roles since leaving the navy and even allowing for looking back with rose-tinted glasses and glossing over the shit times none have been able to match my time in the RN. It wasn't a job, it was an adventure.

Last month I started a CS job, starting at EO level. The pay is not brilliant in comparison to non-public sector salaries but it's above average salary and I can expect one promotion and hopefully two before I retire. Fortunately I've never been driven by money but 12 years or more's worth of a CS pension on top of my Pusser's pension should soften the blow. What appeals to me about the job is that it is pretty niche, there's not all that many people doing what I am going to be doing. Probation period is about 6-12 months and the training and mentoring is going to take a couple of years or so. There will occasionally be elements of high risk but with that comes the rewards. The rewards won't be fiscal but more in the way of job satisfaction.

The downside is that I have to commute further, a 60 mile daily round trip, although mainly motorway miles. With that I will also have to travel around the country, often at short notice, working unsociable hours, as well as being in an on-call rota outside 'office' hours. I guess coming from a forces background helps with that as we tend to have that type of mentality and resilience which also explains why so many of my colleagues are ex-forces.

Is it the best job I could be doing? I guess it has to be considering the only jobs / organisations I could see bettering it, and there's only two of them, I'm not qualified or experienced to do so extremely unlikely ever to get anywhere near them.
 
Following on from my other thread about hard work, what's the best job you've had or can recommend?

I used to work in the water industry and years back people used to retire with final salary pensions. Do such things still exist?

I've had to get out of bed at 6am today for another daily grind, what I'd really like is a nice little 9-5 job with relatively little stress but still pays well. Where can I get one of those? I hear some NHS jobs are pretty jammy.

Also, does anyone know much about the OU and if you can do free accredited courses to count towards a final qual so you don't have to spend a few thousand? That's something I might consider in my spare time.

I'm repeating myself here...............

I found this MBA and will probably start it in a year or so to keep the little grey cells ticking over.


It costs just over 6 grand which is what attracted me to it. It is the cheapest online MBA I have found from a real, accredited, pukka university.

In comparison the OU, which was my first port of enquiry, wants somewhere around 17K to 18K for the same thing.

There you go.

Other than that I can tell you plumbers earn a decent wedge, as do sparky's, hours to suit yourself once you have the experience.
 

Issi

War Hero
Local council. Especially the boys who work in the tip.
Reasonable pay, pension and the chance for some low level pilfering.
 

Yokel

LE
@Dashing_Chap I seem to recall you once saying that you are self employed or that you ran your own company. Could you use those skills to set up something else? Could you do some sort of consulting service? Even things like proofreading are marketable.

What did you graduate in? What skills and knowledge can you sell?
 
I’ve been in Sales Engineering for the last 15 years or so. I really enjoy it. My old boss’s mantra was “we’re the smartest guy in the room”. Using one’s knowledge and experience to help a customer solve a problem and get paid for it is great job satisfaction.

I don’t want to be in Sales because that means “carrying a bag” (a target/quota), which would kill me with stress. I don’t want to be “just“ an engineer, because that can get a bit soulless. I get to meet customers, understand what they need and go and design the outline of a solution. Others fill in the minutiae if we sell that solution.

It’s for winners, but there’s no simple route to the career. It’s not a case of “do X degree or get Y qualification”. It’s a big problem in my world, we need engineers who can speak to people, or sales people who have half a brain. Most of us are from the engineering side, but there’s a few who have gone the other way. In either scenario, there aren’t many who can bridge to the other discipline.

It also helps that I am British by birth and work in the US. Whenever I say something, it’s taken as gospel :)
 

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