Whats it going take, to save our Country?

#1
Our NHS system is stretched to breaking point by overweight civvies and sponging, blood sucking, foreign w@nkers.

Police are losing all their powers, because tree-hugging do-gooders, claim folks have 'rights', even when these scum bags are doing many 'wrongs'.

Political Correctness, is sending all normal people insane, while those that wish to disrupt our lives are laughing hard.

Prices are pushing us all to the wall, and many businesses are folding, allowing cheap foreign crap to fill our shops.

British folks are being told that they can no longer have a Doctors / Dentists appointment, because they've had to be taken off the patient list, to make way for 100 'Johnny Foreigners', forced onto the books by local Government offices.

Religion, now seems to be more important than common sense. Even though, religious beliefs are something that can't be proven and make NO sense what-so-ever.

While I sit here every day, wondering how deep the rabbit hole goes... What's it going to take, to save this great Country?

Aside from building a VERY large wall around this land, and starting genocide on all who shouldn't be here, I don't know.

National Service would be a good start. Followed by bringing back hanging and giving normal citizens the power to protect their property, by force, and against any age group, without rules, if needed.

Land of Hope and Glory?...... Not unless we do something NOW!
 
#3
No your not matey :D

But calm down, quite a few of your posts recently have been along the same lines though, which may explain the lack of replies :D

Not a dig mate.
Maybe youll have more luck when the morning shift arrive tomorrow :)
 
#4
I alwasy love the way 'do-gooder'; a person who does good, is used as a derogatory term.

And yes, T-W, there's a slew of doom and gloom posts about at the moment, so your audience may be spread a bit thin.
 
#9
What's it going to take? It's too late for a reversal of fortunes. Keep working, keep paying taxes and you're guaranteed to keep getting kicked in the teeth. That's your job.

BTW, Brown or Prestcott to take over from Blair as PM. Does ANYONE actually like these two as people let alone politicians? I can't think of a more disgraceful, more hated bunch. Guys, we hate you, don't you watch the news, read the papers or log onto ARRSE?
 
#10
Thermal_Warrior said:
National Service would be a good start.
Is this really a good idea? Think of all the scum bags you'd have to deal with and all the human rights they would have. You could neither boot them out via Colchester nor bury them, Beau Geste style, up to their necks in sand.

Thermal_Warrior said:
giving normal citizens the power to protect their property, by force, and against any age group, without rules, if needed.
I'm always reminded of two stories I read when people express this view. First - a bloke in New York heard a prowler in his kitcken in the dead of night. He fetches his gun, goes downstairs and shoots the prowler dead. You guessed it - the prowler was his daughter who came to the kitchen for a drink.

Second story was about a Scottish couple on holiday - in Florida I think. They got drunk and lost their way walking back to their hotel - ended up hopelessly lost in a suburban housing estate in the small hours.

No problem they think. Knock on one of the doors and ask to phone a taxi back to the hotel. What's the worst that could happen - an angry householder swearing at them perhaps? The drunk bloke picked a house and rang the door bell. The occupant of the house didn't even bother to open the door. He just opened fire through the closed door - killing the drunk.

I agree that the laws relating to reasonable force and self defence in this country are ridiculously biased in favour of the criminal but I think allowing 'any means necessary' would lead to anarchy.
 
#11
Personally I dislike them all.
There is not one solitary person in ANY political party who I would have faith in when it comes to the running of the country.
Maybe its time we started the ARRSE Party.
Ties and rosettes in the ARRSE colours.

I'd vote for it :D
Hell i'd even become a member!!!
I'd stand for my local constituency. :D :D :D :D
 
#12
Thermal_Warrior said:
Am I the only one with feelings about this?

Bet I'm not!

Surely.....
Not only your Country either Cousin! We have mostly the same problems! (And we have S&W, Colt, SIG, Glock, etc.) :roll:
 
#13
Ancient_Mariner said:
Thermal_Warrior said:
giving normal citizens the power to protect their property, by force, and against any age group, without rules, if needed.
I agree that the laws relating to reasonable force and self defence in this country are ridiculously biased in favour of the criminal but I think allowing 'any means necessary' would lead to anarchy.
Probaly going to get corrected very quickly on this, but;

I was led to belive that you're alowed to use resonable force to escape from an attacker.

However the Law see's your home as the last place you will flee to. Throw in if the attacker is tresspassing you're alowed to use reasonable force to eject them from your property as well, and you have a faily good case for home defense.

Just make sure the force is reasonable.
 
#14
Did get told you can use reasonable force if the intruder is on the same level/floor as your wife/kids. So if you catch one drag him upstairs then proceed to give them the shoeing of their life. As ofrsorting out out our countrys problems won't happen as long as we have spinless MP's just doing the job to feather their own nest and the human rights act in place!
 
#15
T_W, eva thought of running for BNP, but seriously, it's a slippery slope and our govt are releasing our hand grip one finger at a time!
 
#16
Thermal_Warrior said:
giving normal citizens the power to protect their property, by force, and against any age group, without rules, if needed.
Ancient_Mariner said:
I'm always reminded of two stories I read when people express this view. First - a bloke in New York heard a prowler in his kitcken in the dead of night. He fetches his gun, goes downstairs and shoots the prowler dead. You guessed it - the prowler was his daughter who came to the kitchen for a drink.

Second story was about a Scottish couple on holiday - in Florida I think. They got drunk and lost their way walking back to their hotel - ended up hopelessly lost in a suburban housing estate in the small hours.

No problem they think. Knock on one of the doors and ask to phone a taxi back to the hotel. What's the worst that could happen - an angry householder swearing at them perhaps? The drunk bloke picked a house and rang the door bell. The occupant of the house didn't even bother to open the door. He just opened fire through the closed door - killing the drunk.

I agree that the laws relating to reasonable force and self defence in this country are ridiculously biased in favour of the criminal but I think allowing 'any means necessary' would lead to anarchy.
Bit of a jump there my friend....

I hope small arms are never common-place in this great land. (Leave that to the Forces).

But, I would like to hear alot less, about teenagers breaking pensioners windows, denting folks cars etc, then getting what's coming, only for the 'ear clipper' to be charged with various crimes!!!!

We live in a Nanny state, where all crim's, scum bags, benefit-suckers and religous nutters are living a right-rosey life style. While the rest of us, mainly hard working, law abiding and neighbourly types suffer!!!!

Sorry for the rant, but I'm seeing too many good people suffer just recently.
 
#17
[quote="Thermal_Warrior
I hope small arms are never common-place in this great land. (Leave that to the Forces).[/quote]

too late bud!
 
#18
I agree chaps with just about all that's been said here. A strange incident occured this morning whilst walking to the bus stop. A couple of chavvy looking lads were stood outside a house near where I live, tops off, smoking tabs and it was p1ssing down outside!! One of them tried to stare me out, I mean I was stunned at the utter lack of civility, manners and respect that this 'thing' was showing me. I then went into a different mode thinking I might end up in a fight but with young kids and mothers around I decided to leave it and I'll see to him another time!!

I think it's time we took control of our country again. National Service would have sorted this jobless little moron out I'm sure!
 
#19
Thermal_Warrior said:
Our NHS system is stretched to breaking point by overweight civvies and sponging, blood sucking, foreign w@nkers.

Police are losing all their powers, because tree-hugging do-gooders, claim folks have 'rights', even when these scum bags are doing many 'wrongs'.

Political Correctness, is sending all normal people insane, while those that wish to disrupt our lives are laughing hard.

Prices are pushing us all to the wall, and many businesses are folding, allowing cheap foreign crap to fill our shops.

British folks are being told that they can no longer have a Doctors / Dentists appointment, because they've had to be taken off the patient list, to make way for 100 'Johnny Foreigners', forced onto the books by local Government offices.

Religion, now seems to be more important than common sense. Even though, religious beliefs are something that can't be proven and make NO sense what-so-ever.

While I sit here every day, wondering how deep the rabbit hole goes... What's it going to take, to save this great Country?

Aside from building a VERY large wall around this land, and starting genocide on all who shouldn't be here, I don't know.

National Service would be a good start. Followed by bringing back hanging and giving normal citizens the power to protect their property, by force, and against any age group, without rules, if needed.

Land of Hope and Glory?...... Not unless we do something NOW!

Firstly, I don't vote Labour, or liberal, I don't hug trees but i'm as British as anyone on here.

My issues with the above nonsense are:

So what about all the foreign doctors and nurses we currently rely on to keep the NHS running because we can't fill our own vacanies? Ship 'em back, let the NHS collapse perhaps?

Police now have more powers do deal with ASB, protestors or all sorts and crime in general than they ever have.

I deal with 'criminals' day in day out, the vast majority are British and white and strangely seem to share many of the views expressed above. Foreign nationals make up a small percentage.

Hanging - so you'd be prepared to swing if found to have used excessive force when defending your home would you?

You have the power to defend yourself, home, family, property or anyone else using force that is 'reasonable in the circumstances'. What you can't do is club to death someone for swearing at you or smashing your windows, you may like to but you're obviously mental.


Lastly, before jumping down my throat please know i accept this country has massive problems in all the areas highlighted above, I just don't think that the absolute rubbish spouted above offers any sensible solutions.
 
#20
stroker said:
So what about all the foreign doctors and nurses we currently rely on to keep the NHS running because we can't fill our own vacanies? Ship 'em back, let the NHS collapse perhaps?
How about this... All those who are not fully entitled to be here, those not paying into the National Insurance and those who have caused their own missfortune (due to long term stupidity) such as the clinically obese and smokers, have to pay for treatment?

stroker said:
Police now have more powers do deal with ASB, protestors or all sorts and crime in general than they ever have.
When I was about 13, I screwed around alot, and one day, after rolling a car tyre into the road (which hit a Police car), one of them gave chase and finally caught me. I tried to be lippy, but ended up with a fat lip and a massive b0ll0cking! I gave up being a tw@t after that. Could they do that now? NO. More powers? On paper yes... But in reallity, against crimes of the common person?

stroker said:
I deal with 'criminals' day in day out, the vast majority are British and white and strangely seem to share many of the views expressed above. Foreign nationals make up a small percentage.
I never said they wouldn't be. I see the same scum on a daily basis.

stroker said:
Hanging - so you'd be prepared to swing if found to have used excessive force when defending your home would you?
If I was that stupid to do so, then it was either necessary (he was armed with a deadly weapon) or I screwed up, so It's my fault. Chances of this happening are VERY slim. Chances of it helping to stop the large increase in knife crime murders is high.

stroker said:
You have the power to defend yourself, home, family, property or anyone else using force that is 'reasonable in the circumstances'. What you can't do is club to death someone for swearing at you or smashing your windows, you may like to but you're obviously mental.
I'm an educated man. If someone smashes my window, I'm not very likely to "club to death" the individual. However, a friend of mine had his car windscreen smashed. He chased after the young toe-rag and caught him. He held him tight while he rang the 'old bill' via his mobile and waited. He too is an educated man, and, as such, didn't hit the twerp. When the Police arrived they took the scum away. "Great" we all say... Until my friend was up for charges of common assault, due to him 'holding on to' a minor!!!!!!
So, do we REALLY have the power to defend our property, when little scum bags know how much power they have as children, when they Cry Wolf about what WE did or didn't do to them?
 

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