Whats In A Name..?

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  1. When serving I met loads of "Smudge" Smiths.
    Why Smudge?
    I heard it may have something to do with a boxer from the 1950's, anyone know? :?
  2. Im' sure that "Smudge" Smith's" was in use a long time before the 50's. I bet there is someone on the site who can give a definitive answer!
  3. Cheers Rumrunner!
  4. i am a smudger and i have never worked out why but these style of nicknames normally come from someone famous.
  5. I too am a Smudge in the real world, and proud of it!

    smoojalooge(evidently a manifestation of Smudge), I new a chap in 2fd Regt RA whose Smudge had warped itself into "Spoogle" by the time I met him!

    THE STORY SO FAR: Found traces of the nickname Smudge from as far back as 1902, but still no explanation as to it's beginnings...
  6. The 'smith's (blacksmith's) face smudged with soot from his fire perhaps?
  7. That is the way I understood it to be.

    What I can't work out is why Clarks seem to get called Nobby :?:
  8. BH,

    Are you hoping for some gullible arrser to give you a wah there??

  9. Smudger Smith
    Nobby Clark
    Chalkie White
    Dusty Miller
    Cnut Blair
    There must be more.....
  10. 'Dinger' Bell
  11. Office clerks back in victorian times were always smartly dressed. i.e. A "Nobby" Dresser. The name "Nobby" Clerk was adopted for anyone with the name Clarke during the Boer War
  12. Ventress

    Ventress LE Moderator

    Tug Wilson, matelot maybe.
  13. Smith
    Smudger Smith, or Smouch. World Wide Words suggests that perhaps this is to do with – of all things – fake tea. When tea first arrived in Britain from China in the 1660s it was extremely expensive, made much more so in the following century by customs duties which greatly encouraged smuggling. Its high price was a stimulus also to counterfeiters, who made imitation teas out of the dried leaves of hawthorn, ash, sloe and other native British plants. These were coloured with various noxious substances, such as verdigris and copperas, and sold to dealers under the slang name of smouch. So pervasive was this practice (one estimate is that three million pounds weight were being made each year at one point) that Parliament passed an Act in 1725 condemning it, not only because it cheated the Revenue but because it resulted in the "destruction of great quantities of timber, woods and underwoods". The source of the word is unknown, though it was also current in the same period as a dialect term for a kiss (hence the modern smooch), and as an offensive slang term for a Jew, and later turns up in the US as a verb meaning 'to acquire dishonestly; to pilfer' (for example, in Huckleberry Finn: "So I'll mosey along now, and smouch a couple of case-knives"). It may also be linked with smutch, a variant of smudge, 'to make dirty'. The connection with Smith or Smythe is obscure – it may be just the similar pronunciation of the first part of the words.
  14. Wilson
    Tug Wilson. This is after an Admiral Wilson, who upon ordering a battleship to enter harbour, and observing the ship’s difficulties, offered caustically to its captain to have it towed into port with tugs.