What would make you buy an electric car?

exbluejob

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Really ? Plenty of eight year old cars need a new engine, at a cost greater than their value ?
Well, I'll go to sea in a bucket.
Reconditioned engine for a Mercedes C class runs around £3000 (anyone remember the Ford recond engines, silver class or gold class?). Clearly car mechanics in Oz get much better remuneration than those in the UK. My local Merc specialist (not the dealer) is charging out around £85 an hour. I estimate 2 days, one for engine out, one to put it back, call it 10 hours a day, 20 hours work = £1700 + engine £3000 + oil and bits 'n pieces £1000. Total £5700.
 
Reconditioned engine for a Mercedes C class runs around £3000 (anyone remember the Ford recond engines, silver class or gold class?). Clearly car mechanics in Oz get much better remuneration than those in the UK. My local Merc specialist (not the dealer) is charging out around £85 an hour. I estimate 2 days, one for engine out, one to put it back, call it 10 hours a day, 20 hours work = £1700 + engine £3000 + oil and bits 'n pieces £1000. Total £5700.
Another fuckwit incapable of avoiding the ad hominem smear.

Read the article. The article says the owner was quoted a Mercedes main dealer rate of £200 an hour.

And that’s before you consider the article; it’s a whinge fest from a local rag that has been syndicated by that well known organ of investigative journalism, the Daily Express. There’s no mention of the car’s mileage……It’s click bate.

A sad faced gentleman who has found out that the high mileage 4 year old premium car he bought is shagged out four years later is not evidence that electric cars aren’t viable….
 
Published by: Willy Rock, ROYALSBLUE, on 26 January 2022.

The head of Stellantis disagrees with EU policy: how he sees the future without emissions.

The EU plans to phase out petrol and diesel cars for electric vehicles, but Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares sees cheaper and faster ways to reduce carbon emissions.

The European Commission’s strategy to phase out combustion engines in favor of electric vehicles is a choice that involves environmental and social risks, Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares said in an interview.

Since the merger of Fiat Chrysler and Peugeot PSA Group, Tavares has developed a € 30 billion electrification plan, which has helped Stellantis’ shares grow by more than 60% in their first year . . .

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Published by: Willy Rock, ROYALSBLUE, on 26 January 2022.

The head of Stellantis disagrees with EU policy: how he sees the future without emissions.

The EU plans to phase out petrol and diesel cars for electric vehicles, but Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares sees cheaper and faster ways to reduce carbon emissions.

The European Commission’s strategy to phase out combustion engines in favor of electric vehicles is a choice that involves environmental and social risks, Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares said in an interview.

Since the merger of Fiat Chrysler and Peugeot PSA Group, Tavares has developed a € 30 billion electrification plan, which has helped Stellantis’ shares grow by more than 60% in their first year . . .

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Comes under the heading of "Well he would say that wouldn't he"
 
Another fuckwit incapable of avoiding the ad hominem smear.

Read the article. The article says the owner was quoted a Mercedes main dealer rate of £200 an hour.

And that’s before you consider the article; it’s a whinge fest from a local rag that has been syndicated by that well known organ of investigative journalism, the Daily Express. There’s no mention of the car’s mileage……It’s click bate.

A sad faced gentleman who has found out that the high mileage 4 year old premium car he bought is shagged out four years later is not evidence that electric cars aren’t viable….
They aren't if you can only afford a second hand one.
 

anglo

LE
Another fuckwit incapable of avoiding the ad hominem smear.

Read the article. The article says the owner was quoted a Mercedes main dealer rate of £200 an hour.

And that’s before you consider the article; it’s a whinge fest from a local rag that has been syndicated by that well known organ of investigative journalism, the Daily Express. There’s no mention of the car’s mileage……It’s click bate.

A sad faced gentleman who has found out that the high mileage 4 year old premium car he bought is shagged out four years later is not evidence that electric cars aren’t viable….
There’s no mention of the car’s mileage

At the time of purchase, the car had done 49,000 miles

So, not so high mileage, £27,000 for 4 years driving, Real bargain:)

It means if you buy a second hand EV/Hybrid, be prepared to scrap it if the battery fails,
it doesn't bode well for the second hand market in cars with a battery drive,
until second hand batteries are available

A sad faced gentleman who has found out that the high mileage 4 year old premium car he bought is shagged out four years later is not evidence that electric cars aren’t viable…
.

Nobody as said that that electric cars aren’t viable….
 
There’s no mention of the car’s mileage

At the time of purchase, the car had done 49,000 miles

So, not so high mileage, £27,000 for 4 years driving, Real bargain:)

It means if you buy a second hand EV/Hybrid, be prepared to scrap it if the battery fails,
it doesn't bode well for the second hand market in cars with a battery drive,
until second hand batteries are available

A sad faced gentleman who has found out that the high mileage 4 year old premium car he bought is shagged out four years later is not evidence that electric cars aren’t viable….

Nobody as said that that electric cars aren’t viable….
No it doesn’t mean anything of the sort. There’s no mention of its current mileage; it could have been around around Leicester doing 100000 a year as a minicab. If the ICE was fucked, he’d probably be looking at a bill between 5-10k, which would not be worth spending.

There’s no investigative journalism in the article to corroborate one man’s facts and it ignores that there are plenty of articles on proper motoring sites about Mercedes of that age needing large sums spending on them.
 

anglo

LE
No it doesn’t mean anything of the sort. There’s no mention of its current mileage; it could have been around around Leicester doing 100000 a year as a minicab. If the ICE was fucked, he’d probably be looking at a bill between 5-10k, which would not be worth spending.

There’s no investigative journalism in the article to corroborate one man’s facts and it ignores that there are plenty of articles on proper motoring sites about Mercedes of that age needing large sums spending on them.
it could have been around around Leicester doing 100000 a year as a minicab
You are making up shit, again, you have no facts to support that statement.

There’s no investigative journalism in the article to corroborate one man’s facts
You are accusing the man of being a liar?

it ignores that there are plenty of articles on proper motoring sites about Mercedes of that age needing large sums spending on them.
Irrelevant, we are not discussing other vehicles, stick to the subject

If the ICE was fucked, he’d probably be looking at a bill between 5-10k, which would not be worth spending.
Bullshit, There would be second hand parts available, and a possible rebuild of the old engine,

By the way, how is your Hybrid going?
 

ugly

LE
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No chance of me buying one, I’m hanging on to my petrol and diesel cars for local trips for as long as I can and any long journey will either be train or hire vehicles so I won’t care!
 
it could have been around around Leicester doing 100000 a year as a minicab
You are making up shit, again, you have no facts to support that statement.

There’s no investigative journalism in the article to corroborate one man’s facts
You are accusing the man of being a liar?

it ignores that there are plenty of articles on proper motoring sites about Mercedes of that age needing large sums spending on them.
Irrelevant, we are not discussing other vehicles, stick to the subject

If the ICE was fucked, he’d probably be looking at a bill between 5-10k, which would not be worth spending.
Bullshit, There would be second hand parts available, and a possible rebuild of the old engine,

By the way, how is your Hybrid going?
I’m not making anything up; I’m simply using a possibly scenario to expose the complete lack of any journalistic integrity. The Daily Express FFS, sindicating from a Leicester Mercury quoting a single source with an aganeda. It’s ******* laughable that you believe it. Neither you nor I know how this car has been used.

How much do you think it would cost for a Mercedes main dealer to rebuild an E220 engine? The bill isn’t going to be less than £5k, probably quite a bit more. If you buy a four year old car and run it until it’s 8, you run the risk of a bill which is uneconomical to repair. Would you spend £5k on a £12000 car; I wouldn’t. Point being, anything major on a premium car of that age is quite likely to be unviable. So why single out batteries?

All this article proves is that it’s dumb to buy expensive cars this way. Matey boy has taken a £17000 depreciation hit over four years. That would have funded him a brand new E-Class on PCP with a five year warranty.

As for our hybrid; it’s brilliant. We’re now approaching 20,000 km in 6 months. Frankly, the cost of a battery (or any other) repair doesn’t enter my head; it’s got a five year unlimited mileage warranty.
 
Really ? Plenty of eight year old cars need a new engine, at a cost greater than their value ?
Well, I'll go to sea in a bucket.
I used to run a fleet of Mercedes Sprinter vans. They lead a tough life and do about 60,000 to 70,000 per year. At the five year mark they are knackered and have often racked up $40k or more in repairs. Shocking things that most repairs seem to run into thousands, occasionally tens of thousands. I’m swapping them out for Ford Transits, much cheaper in every way and seem to last longer.
 

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LE
I used to run a fleet of Mercedes Sprinter vans. They lead a tough life and do about 60,000 to 70,000 per year. At the five year mark they are knackered and have often racked up $40k or more in repairs. Shocking things that most repairs seem to run into thousands, occasionally tens of thousands. I’m swapping them out for Ford Transits, much cheaper in every way and seem to last longer.

Electric steering racks starting to cause real problems as opposed to the long established hydraulic power steering units


 

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