What will be different following the Coronavirus?

Goatman

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One thing that will be different after this is all over is, you know at those award shows shows when they start the sombre music and say these are the actors/sports stars/ z listers we've lost this year.....







....they're going to go on for bloody ages!
 
A shit surveillance job - 'other people's shit is our bread and butter'.

'Dozens of scientists across the globe are sampling poo to find tiny shreds of the coronavirus that can serve as an early warning of outbreaks. In theory, if viral levels reach a certain threshold, health experts can tell more people to stay home. When viral loads abate, they can tell people it’s okay to fraternize.

'This week, Dutch scientists announced a first-of-its-kind method for detecting SARS-CoV-2 in wastewater. The team, from KWR Water Research Institute, took samples of wastewater from six Dutch cities as well as Amsterdam’s airport in February 2020, weeks before the Netherlands announced its first case of Covid-19. They collected new samples and repeated the experiment in the first and third weeks of March.


 
A shit surveillance job - 'other people's shit is our bread and butter'.

'Dozens of scientists across the globe are sampling poo to find tiny shreds of the coronavirus that can serve as an early warning of outbreaks. In theory, if viral levels reach a certain threshold, health experts can tell more people to stay home. When viral loads abate, they can tell people it’s okay to fraternize.

'This week, Dutch scientists announced a first-of-its-kind method for detecting SARS-CoV-2 in wastewater. The team, from KWR Water Research Institute, took samples of wastewater from six Dutch cities as well as Amsterdam’s airport in February 2020, weeks before the Netherlands announced its first case of Covid-19. They collected new samples and repeated the experiment in the first and third weeks of March.


I wonder does it rely on PCR like the swab tests?
 

Yokel

LE
Hopefully the role of critical infrastructure, such as food and the utilities, in dealing with this crisis will be noted, along with the efforts made by their workers. Similarly the role that engineering and scientific companies are making, as well as various universities.

Hopefully this will help future political decision making to consider long term implications and social capital as well as short term money saving, or short term profits.
 
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I suspect that what will be different after the coronavirus will amount to nothing more than the excuses next time our critical infrastructure is found wanting.
 

Goatman

ADC
Book Reviewer
Hopefully the role of critical infrastructure, such as food and the utilities, in dealing with this crisis will be noted, along with the efforts made by their workers. Similarly the role that engineering and scientific companies are making, as well as various universities.

Hopefully this will help future political decision making to consider long term implications and social capital as well as short term money saving, or short term profits.
My wife and I were chatting about something similar earlier. How much return have we had, at this time of national emergency, on the gigantic taxpayer investment in those really critical services such as the Royal Shakespeare Company, the Royal Ballet, the National Theatre, RADA and the Royal Academy of Music? I can see their directors having a tricky time writing their business cases for the first round of public funding post-COVID19.
 
My wife and I were chatting about something similar earlier. How much return have we had, at this time of national emergency, on the gigantic taxpayer investment in those really critical services such as the Royal Shakespeare Company, the Royal Ballet, the National Theatre, RADA and the Royal Academy of Music? I can see their directors having a tricky time writing their business cases for the first round of public funding post-COVID19.
Actually they have all been streaming past performances during this pandemic. Not for everyone admittedly but they are trying. Whether or not they are justified in getting the funding in the first place is definitely worth a debate though.
 

Yokel

LE
My wife and I were chatting about something similar earlier. How much return have we had, at this time of national emergency, on the gigantic taxpayer investment in those really critical services such as the Royal Shakespeare Company, the Royal Ballet, the National Theatre, RADA and the Royal Academy of Music? I can see their directors having a tricky time writing their business cases for the first round of public funding post-COVID19.
Do those arts establishments contribute to the economy via the wider performing arts and the creative industries? Do they do much educational outreach?

Hence my point about social capital. Do they contribute to wider society? Someone like a food producer or a company that can produce oxygen valves or cable harnesses can easily prove that they do.
 
Do those arts establishments contribute to the economy via the wider performing arts and the creative industries? Do they do much educational outreach?

Hence my point about social capital. Do they contribute to wider society? Someone like a food producer or a company that can produce oxygen valves or cable harnesses can easily prove that they do.

The arts can, too:

I was in digs near Shepperton studios last year. Just anecdotally from conversations in the pub, it's crystal clear that huge waves of foreign money come to UK via cinema. I looked it up a bit. Just cinema is bigger in foreign exchange terms than agriculture to UKPLC, let alone other branches of the arts. I dunno where porn sits, by the way.

You can no more have a vibrant arts scene without a complex net of (possibly non profitable) elements than you could have a car industry without an analogous net.
 
One thing that will be different after this is all over is, you know at those award shows shows when they start the sombre music and say these are the actors/sports stars/ z listers we've lost this year.....







....they're going to go on for bloody ages!

I hate those, l always feel i should have guessed for the Dead Pool Sweepstake at work.
 

Yokel

LE
The arts can, too:

I was in digs near Shepperton studios last year. Just anecdotally from conversations in the pub, it's crystal clear that huge waves of foreign money come to UK via cinema. I looked it up a bit. Just cinema is bigger in foreign exchange terms than agriculture to UKPLC, let alone other branches of the arts. I dunno where porn sits, by the way.

You can no more have a vibrant arts scene without a complex net of (possibly non profitable) elements than you could have a car industry without an analogous net.
I mentioned manufacturers of things such as oxygen valves and cable harnesses as these are things that are needed for ventilators being urgently procured. Many of our manufacturers (supported by suppliers, calibration labs, and specialist consultantancies) can produce critically important equipment at short notice.

It is not all about money.
 
I mentioned manufacturers of things such as oxygen valves and cable harnesses as these are things that are needed for ventilators being urgently procured. Many of our manufacturers (supported by suppliers, calibration labs, and specialist consultantancies) can produce critically important equipment at short notice.

It is not all about money.

I couldn't agree more if I'd passed out with the Sword of Honour on the all-arms Agreeing More course.
 
If they, or any other group/industry have any sense or integrity, they will commence with a list of names of NHS staff who perished through participation on the front line.
I expect the "Millies" to be quietly dropped from the calendar to be replaced with the Annual Mary Seacole Health and Associated Middle Management Awards.
 

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