What wars have the Americans won on their own?

#1
Can anyone think of any wars the yanks have won with out assistance from somebody?

If I recal correctly the War of Independance had french assistance?

Jennie
 
#3
Hmmmmm, Some to be proud of, The invasion of Granada and Panama. :lol:

None against any er, major powers.
 
#5
Jennie said:
If I recal correctly the War of Independance had french assistance
They didn't win that, they paid us to leave them alone - which suited us fine as Asia was much more worth while. Obviously they got a bit silly and stopped paying so British troops marched from Canada, burnt the Whitehouse and marched back without any resistance... twice. They soon started paying again.
 
#6
Lots, see my post on another thread, but they tend to have a go when the odds are very heavily stacked in their favour or when the owner occupier is distracted elsewhere e.g. Florida 1810 and Great Britain 1812. The invasion of Utah left half the male population dead. Polygamy anyone?
 
#7
Lots, see my post on another thread, but they tend to have a go when the odds are very heavily stacked in their favour or when the owner occupier is distracted elsewhere e.g. Florida 1810 and Great Britain 1812. The invasion of Utah left half the male population dead. Polygamy anyone?
 
#8
If I remember rightly, the main cause of the war of 1812 was the UK interfering with their shipping, vis a vis the French blockade. Also didn't help that RN ships kept pressing their MN sailors. No sense of humour, some people. :D
 
#10
MC, with regards to the burning of the White House, I believe it only happened once, in 1814, during a classic British maritime expeditionary campaign under Brigadier Robert Ross.

The Canadian connection to the incident is that the burning of the White House and sacking of Washington, D.C. was done at the request of the Canadian Governor, in retaliation for the burning of villages in Canada by American troops.
 
#11
During the War of Independence they were technically British until they won and became independent, so you could look at the american war of independence as the 2nd English civil war. They couldn't win their own civil war without outside help. I believe we helped the confederacy and the french were supplying the North, but I may be wrong about the french.
 
#12
The only war the Yanks ever won on their own was the American Civil War, and that was because they were fighting other Yanks.
 
#13
MB,

The French provided 45,000 for washington during that war, which means that the British were outnumbered by the French alone!

France was the first nation to recognise the US as a nation and is thus America's oldest ally and is one of the few nations the US hasn't fought against since. All allied combat against the French in WW2 was left to the Brits.
 
#14
Not sure, but i believe they won a'war' in Cuba in the early part of the 20th century. It's how they still hold Guantanamo Bay. It may have been around 1912-1914 or a little earlier.
 
#15
They've invaded Cuba FOUE times:

1898 Apr 19, US Congress passed a resolution recognizing Cuban independence and demanding that Spain relinquish authority over Cuba. President McKinley was also authorized to use military force to put the resolution into effect.

1898 Apr 20, President McKinley signed a congressional resolution recognizing Cuban independence from Spain. He signed the Joint Resolution for War with Spain that authorized U.S. military intervention to Cuban independence.

1898 Apr 21, The Spanish-American War began. The U.S. North Atlantic Fleet, under the command of Rear Admiral William T. Sampson, was ordered to begin the blockade of Cuba. The fleet with the armoured cruiser New York steamed out of Key West, Florida, at 6:30 a.m. the next morning..

1898 Apr 22, With the United States and Spain on the verge of formally declaring war, the U.S. Navy began blockading Cuban ports under orders from President McKinley. Congress authorized creation of the First U.S. Volunteer Cavalry, popularly known as the "Rough Riders

1898 Apr 25, The United States formally declared war on Spain. The US House passed the declaration 311 to 6.

1898 Jun 10, During the Spanish-American War, U.S. Marines landed in Cuba and camped at Guantanamo Bay where 2 Marines became the 1st war casualties.

1898 Jun 15, US marines attacked the Spanish off Guantanamo, Cuba.

1898 Jun 22, Lt. Col. Theodore Roosevelt and Col. Leonard Wood led the Rough Riders, a volunteer cavalry regiment, onto the beach at Daiquiri.

1898 Jun 24, American troops drove Spanish forces from La Guasimas, Cuba.

1898 Jul 17, Spain surrendered to the United States at Santiago, Cuba.

1898 Aug 12, The peace protocol ending the Spanish-American War was signed after three months and 22 days of hostilities. 460 US soldiers died in battle. The US paid Spain $20 million to vacate Cuba, Guam, Puerto Rico and the Philippines. Over the next 3 years US casualties in the Philippines war totalled over 4,000.
1898 Dec 10, The United States and Spain signed a treaty in Paris ending the Spanish-American War in the Caribbean and the Pacific.

1901 Mar 2, Congress passed the Platt amendment, which limited Cuban autonomy as a condition for withdrawal of U.S. troops.

1901 Jun 12, Cuba agreed to become an American protectorate by accepting the Platt Amendment.

1902 May 20, The United States ended its three-year military presence in Cuba as the Republic of Cuba was established under its first elected president, Tomas Estrada Palma. Theodore Roosevelt had criticized the governmentÂ’s sluggish withdrawal of disease-stricken US troops from Cuba.

1903 Feb 24, The United States signed an agreement acquiring a naval station at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. Pres. Roosevelt leased the site for 2,000 gold coins a year, about $4,080 now.

1903 Mar 19, The U.S. Senate ratified the Cuban treaty, gaining naval bases in Guantanamo and Bahia Honda.

1904 Feb 5, The American occupation of Cuba ended.

1906 Sep 28, US troops reoccupied Cuba. They stayed until 1909.

1906 The US established a provisional government as revolution threatened.

1909 Jan 28, The United States ended direct control over Cuba.

1909 Feb 1, U.S. troops left Cuba after installing Jose Miguel Gomez as president.

1912 Jun 5, US marines invaded Cuba (3rd time).

1916 Mar 8, US invaded Cuba for 4th time. This time "to end corrupt Menocal regime."

1934 The US lease on Guantanamo Bay was renegotiated to say that the land could only revert to Cuban control if abandoned by the US or by mutual consent.
 
#16
If I remember rightly, the main cause of the war of 1812 was the UK interfering with their shipping, vis a vis the French blockade. Also didn't help that RN ships kept pressing their MN sailors. No sense of humour, some people.

What they don't like to be reminded of is that quite a few of the MN sailors that the RN interfered with were slavers. Personally I think that the Navy should have left them to the tender mercies of their former charges (who had an understandable habit, once unchained, of shredding anybody with pale skin).
 
#17
Absolutely - and when you consider that on the majority of slavers, the slave deck (where the captives were housed) was at the most two and half feet in height, and also that most slavers' journeys involved weeks and weeks of being becalmed in the doldrums, I for one am glad that the RN 'interfered'.
 
#18
The American Revolution was a Civil War between colonists who, not universally admittedly, did not want to break the tie with the UK, until the bitter end, when it became inevitable.

In many ways, that Civil War was the culmination of the Civil War fought over a century before amongst the Nations of the British Isles, ending with the death of the Lord Protector and the Restoration of Charles II. The principles they fought over (universal male suffrage etc, Religious tolerance, small government, the Legal Rights of the King over subjects etc espoused by The Levellers etc) who given new energy and fought out on the American Continent.

Many of their Founding Fathers were born and bred in places such as Wolverhampton (e.g. Johnson). So they were Brits first, who became Yanks later.

But I agree, the help of La Fayette and his horde of Frogs tipped the balance in the Colonists favour. And we lost. So, they needed help for that.

But, if they ask nicely, I'm sure our Queen would consider lording it over them once more, once they've learnt the errors of their ways.

Anyway, back to the point. They were late in WW1 and WW2 and since then have had a thing about getting in at beginning, even starting them now so nobody can criticise them for being late!

But I'm frankly baffled why they invaded a Motorway Service Chain...... maybe they refuse the McDonalds franchise??? An Act of War, surely!
 
#19
They may not have fought against the French ever, but the French aren't exactly popular there at the moment, are they. Freedom fries with your Big mac, sir?
 
#20
OldChap said:
Absolutely - and when you consider that on the majority of slavers, the slave deck (where the captives were housed) was at the most two and half feet in height, and also that most slavers' journeys involved weeks and weeks of being becalmed in the doldrums, I for one am glad that the RN 'interfered'.
Very true, God's own branch of the armed forces did have a long and honourable history of intercepting "Blackbirders" en-route from West Africa to the US, but that is not one of the primary causes of the War of 1812.

Though there were many underlying tensions that caused the war, the main causes were the attempts by the UK to control all shipping into Europe, in the form of blockade, and the Royal Navy's insistence on boarding US ships to search for RN deserters.

In an attempt to strangle British trade, Napoleon attempted to ban trade between the UK and continental ports, and aspired to stop trade between the uk and neutral countries (the Berlin and Milan decrees of 1806 and 1807, also known as "The Continental system"). The British government retaliated by instituting Orders In Council in 1807 that decreed that all neutral trade to Europe pass through British ports.
While both policies caused hardship to the predominantly agricultural US economy, the British blockade was more harshly felt by US ships trading with their primary markets, owing to the superiority of British sea-power. There were also many unresolved issues going back to the US War Of Independence, in which France was an ally of the States.
The second cause, and the one that most immediately sparked the crisis leading to war, was stopping US merchant and naval shipping to search for RN deserters. In the early nineteenth century, skilled seamen were a much sought after commodity, and while pay and conditions in the RN were quite good by the standards of the age, they were very good indeed in the US Navy which was anxious to build up a cadre of prime seamen to man it's young fleet. As a result, many Brit sailors deserted to join the USN. As the RN was desperately short of men, they frequently boarded US ships to search for deserters and added insult to injury by pressing American seamen. This all came to a head in 1807, when HMS Leopard fired on the USS Chesapeake, after she had refused to allow a boarding party aboard.

While the blockade policy was a matter of national survival for the UK, it is undeniable that the insensitive and ham-handed enforcement of boarding rights was the critical factor that injured US pride, and the most avoidable. There was also a very hawkish cross-party faction in American politics that believed that Canada naturally belonged to the US, and an invasion would salve wounded American pride.

I am not a military history geek, its just that I had to do a 30 minute lecture on the 1812 War a few years back. 8)

PS
The Patrick O' Brian novel, "The far side of the World" deals with the pursuit and destruction (admittedly by a hurricane) of a fictional USN frigate sent to the South Pacific to attack the British whaling fleet in 1813. In the film, good as it was, it mysteriously became a French ship of the line.. :roll:
 

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