What to do, what to do?!

#1
Good morning, I'm in a bit of a quandary here.. This morning we got a letter here addressed to an individual at a totally different barracks (we share the same name), obviously he was no longer present at that location and someonethere had scribbled our address on the front in pen instead. Being a inquisitive (nosy) type I opened it to find a letter from a collection agency with regards to a car accident in 2003. It would appear laddo crashed into someone whilst uninsured and has been ignoring various letters and what not since then, he now owes £66,000!

Now, I thought to myself I wonder what happens if I type the addressee into JPA...hey presto there he is! Complete with new location..

Now my issue, should I just return this to the credit agency (since I hate those bastards) with not known at this address and aid this young soldier in his flight from responsibility (and a massive fine) or should I do the probably correct thing and give them his new location?
 
#2
Mongoose said:
Good morning, I'm in a bit of a quandary here.. This morning we got a letter here addressed to an individual at a totally different barracks (we share the same name), obviously he was no longer present at that location and someonethere had scribbled our address on the front in pen instead. Being a inquisitive (nosy) type I opened it to find a letter from a collection agency with regards to a car accident in 2003. It would appear laddo crashed into someone whilst uninsured and has been ignoring various letters and what not since then, he now owes £66,000!

Now, I thought to myself I wonder what happens if I type the addressee into JPA...hey presto there he is! Complete with new location..

Now my issue, should I just return this to the credit agency (since I hate those bastards) with not known at this address and aid this young soldier in his flight from responsibility (and a massive fine) or should I do the probably correct thing and give them his new location?
Bin it
 

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#3
IMHO, you should spill the beans. Soldier or not, it is this sort of tw@t that is causing insurance costs to sky rocket. Yes, we should look after our own, but the guy should be made to pay.

I'll stand by for incoming...
 
#4
I would call the agency, saying that you opened the mail, as it had your name on it.....then state that it must be for someone else with the same name.

I wouldn't help them find his address, that's down to them.
 
#6
smudge67 said:
I would call the agency, saying that you opened the mail, as it had your name on it.....then state that it must be for someone else with the same name.

I wouldn't help them find his address, that's down to them.
As much as it pains me I have to agree with smudge :x :D
 
#7
The least you should do is return it to the agency in question. IMHO due to the seriousness of the offence committed, you should also inform them that he may be at location x. If that's a bit too much, point them in the direction of your unit HR staff and rely on them to do the right thing.

The tw@t deserves what's coming to him.
 
#9
Mongoose said:
By share the same name I mean the barracks, not me ;)
So this letter was addressed to Pte XYZ not to Pte Mongoose?

And you opened it?

Why?
 
#10
Nah it was addressed to "Mr xxxx", here we have a high turnover of people throughout the years, it was possible it was for someone that is no longer with us. And there was no return address or anything on the envelope and it was addressed to an adress in Catterick and also in Scotland at the same time (and scribbled out and replaced with ours).
Basically it's "SOPs" to open that kind of thing here so we can work out what to do with it
 
#12
Mongoose said:
Nah it was addressed to "Mr xxxx", here we have a high turnover of people throughout the years, it was possible it was for someone that is no longer with us. And there was no return address or anything on the envelope and it was addressed to an adress in Catterick and also in Scotland at the same time (and scribbled out and replaced with ours).
Basically it's "SOPs" to open that kind of thing here so we can work out what to do with it
Isn't that illegal?

Seems it is.

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061023123702AABq6Sw

Especially if you now use the information you gained to pass his new address on to the collection agency.

If I was you I would bin it and pretend this thread never existed. :p
 
#13
Mongoose said:
Nah it was addressed to "Mr xxxx", here we have a high turnover of people throughout the years, it was possible it was for someone that is no longer with us. And there was no return address or anything on the envelope and it was addressed to an adress in Catterick and also in Scotland at the same time (and scribbled out and replaced with ours).
Basically it's "SOPs" to open that kind of thing here so we can work out what to do with it
I'll remember that next time i send some Anthrax out!

Ring the insurance company, say it's gone to the wrong address and that's all. Without opening the letter and searching for the bloke you didn't know where he was prior to the letter, and tell them that too.

He might well be in the wrong, but you have you been paid to investigate on their behalf??

*winds neck in*
 
#14
Mongoose said:
Nah it was addressed to "Mr xxxx", here we have a high turnover of people throughout the years, it was possible it was for someone that is no longer with us. And there was no return address or anything on the envelope and it was addressed to an adress in Catterick and also in Scotland at the same time (and scribbled out and replaced with ours).
Basically it's "SOPs" to open that kind of thing here so we can work out what to do with it
SOP my arrse, you have broken the law. What ever happened to "return to sender". It's none of your business in any way whatsoever.
 
#15
What ever happened to "return to sender".
there was no return address or anything on the envelope
A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person's detriment and without reasonable excuse, opens a postal packet which they know or suspect to have been delivered incorrectly.
^ Which I haven't. Had I not opened it then a) said company would not locate person b) person would not know of this situation since the address on it was as I said totally wrong (Catterick & Scotland at the same time).
Had I just randomly been passing through, picked it up and opened it then yes it would probably apply but since today I've been spammed with duty post bitch I'm opening all kinds of letters not addressed to me, for example the old Adjutant gets letters (meant for the new Adjt) addressed to him, am I supposed to bin those too? Methinks not...

So back to the question;

So, bin it? Or just return in a new envelope to Credit Agency with not known at this address? Or include correct address? Or forward to intended?
 
#16
Return to the company, with a note explaining that you had to open it to get a return address. Also point out that the address in a Barracks, the uninsured scrote isn't there any more, and point them in the direction of Manning and Records ;)

Edited: for all those saying bin it - consider if you were the person he hit. You'll still be waiting for a payout you're due so "assisting" them isn't helping the insurer, it's helping the victim of his actions.
 
#17
Mongoose said:
What ever happened to "return to sender".
there was no return address or anything on the envelope
A person commits an offence if, intending to act to a person's detriment and without reasonable excuse, opens a postal packet which they know or suspect to have been delivered incorrectly.
^ Which I haven't. Had I not opened it then a) said company would not locate person b) person would not know of this situation since the address on it was as I said totally wrong (Catterick & Scotland at the same time).
Had I just randomly been passing through, picked it up and opened it then yes it would probably apply but since today I've been spammed with duty post bitch I'm opening all kinds of letters not addressed to me, for example the old Adjutant gets letters (meant for the new Adjt) addressed to him, am I supposed to bin those too? Methinks not...

So back to the question;

So, bin it? Or just return in a new envelope to Credit Agency with not known at this address? Or include correct address? Or forward to intended?
I had always thought that letters addressed to a named individual are to be delivered to that person wheras letters addressed to an appointment can be opened by the duty post bitch.

So if the letter says Mr X then Mr X gets it but if it says Maj X ADJT blah blah then it can be opened.

As to what to do with it now? I think your best bet is the last one, forward it on to the guy it is intended for.
 
#20
Contact the debt collecting agency and tell them you want 10% of the £66k or you will not pass on the info on the lads location, a finders fee if you wish. This of course is highly illegal and will get you collar felt (and not in a good way either).
 

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