Don't know where to quite put this thread, anyway Mods do what you will with it. This is not a piss-take either, but a fair dinkum question and is also directed at us Aussies. Ahem....... Watching the tele the other night - as you do, and a show come on about all the great stuff the Brits built/made/designed. What really got me was this engine: Napier Deltic Napier Deltic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I thought how good is this design, and got me thinking what the **** happened? You guys (and us Aussies) have built/made/designed some excellent engineering stuff, now just a shadow of our former selves. Overtaken by the great unwashed with inferior shoddy made junk. OK, back on my meds, rant over.