What 'Soft-Roader'?

#1
I'm after replacing my car. I drive a Galaxy at the moment, but I am feeling the need for a second hand 4x4. Not for real off-roading or Green-laning or anything like that, but maybe a wet field, dealing with snow in Central Scotland, that sort of thing. It also has to be an everyday car, so I want some comfort - so no Ex-Army Defenders. I've spent enough time in them and my back can't take it! My requirements are:

Automatic - The Army has broken my body and arthritic hips and shoulders are getting too much for trogging up and down gears.

Cruise Control - Because I'm lazy.

Big and powerful enough to tow a caravan or a trailer full of rubble (I'm doing up my house).

Plenty of space for 2 medium sized dogs - but not kids!

As easy on (Diesel) fuel and insurance as possible - I know I won't get the economy of a normal car, but as best as I can.

Price - up to £15,000ish.

I've looked at things like the Honda CRV, or Toyota Rav4.
 
#2
The wife and I have a Nissan X Trail, very good on diesel, comfortable, post 2004 the models are all good spec, with heated seats and sat nav etc, it tows a double horse trailer no problem. Apart from looking a bit like a Tonka toy, its a good all rounder, which I hope fits your requirements.

Good hunting, and be aware of the 'car sales walts'. When we were looking for our car, we found an example that was a couple hundred quid lower than everyone else, guy claimed to be Forces after a quick sale, but its dog toffee.. Search for the above on arrse and you will see the thread I put up here.

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#3
the kia thing is good value for money and well specced. I know a couple with them including me mum.
 
#4
I'm with Shifty. My 55 plate XTrail T Spec is ace. Electric everything, cruise control, 6 speed 2.2l turbo diesel. Goes like a dream with 96000 miles on the clock. In the 60000 of those we've put on her, she's only had fluids, tyres, brake pads and 1 set of discs. Comfortable on long hauls, no sweat in the ice and snow that sends the UK mental and carries loads of stuff. The satnav DVD is expensive to replace from Nissan but I got a copy of the latest one from eBay for a tenner.


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#5
Had a Ford Kuga for a week as a courtesy car and that was quite handy but the Nissan options are meant to be rather good. Fella down the road has a Hyundai Santa Fe which he raves about.


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#6
IIRC My sister managed to acquire a 2nd hand Disco3 (I think) for your budget from the Carlise dealership, she owns horses and insists it's the Business ( previous 4x4's were Vauxhall Frontera & a Trooper of which was coming to the end of its life right enough)

I've driven plenty of Disco's over the years including hers & if you can find one within your budget then highly recommend it.
 
#8
Not a soft roader, but I've just got a 2.7 twin turbo audi allroad A6 4x4

covers all your requirements and enough vaa vaa voom to make your balls tingle and scare boy racers at the lights. Looks like it moves like old people **** :)

cheap as well....I''m wondering when its gonna blow up and become economically unfeasable to fix (seems fine so far)
 
#9
Discovery road tax is silly. Kia might be worth a go my eldest brother is on his second.
With an LPG conversion overall running costs will be reduced, although another option:

Suzuki Fourtrack.
 
#10
My choice would be a cheap Hilux for the rough shite, reliable, chuck what you want in it, dent it scrape it, don't give a toss. And a nice car for everything else.

Or an Audi A6 All road
 
#13
I was offered an Audi Q7 within my budget the other day. Thank goodness I said I'd check the reviews online first. It looks good, the spec is good, but apparently the running costs are astronomical, and the thing is HUGE!
 
#14
As per Flash's comment - Skoda Octavia 4x4. Go on Drive the Deal and you'll get a a new one for a couple of grand more than your 15k. Absolutely bullet proof, cavernous boot, economical and plenty of torque in the 2l diesel for pulling your caravan.
 
#16
Get a disco 2 for about £6000 with full service history, has mine now a couple of years and there's nothing she won't get out of, good boot space, brilliant for towing, get the ecu reprogrammed and the rge removed and you will get 32 mph maybe more, air suspension is good for towing as it keeps the car level. Disco 3 are good cars but have a few issues like the electronic parking break, by all accounts the disco 4 is a superb car but still expensive. Personnly I am waiting in the conversion kits to come down in price so i can stick the tdv6 in my disco 2 when the td5 gives up the ghost


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#17
I was offered an Audi Q7 within my budget the other day. Thank goodness I said I'd check the reviews online first. It looks good, the spec is good, but apparently the running costs are astronomical, and the thing is HUGE!

I am in fear for my 10 year old allroad.....any chance of any links to how bad its gonna be when it happens :)
 
#18
Suburu forester or offroader. £15000 will get you a 10 plate.

Or Skoda Yeti - Even Clarkson liked it.
 
#19
I was offered an Audi Q7 within my budget the other day. Thank goodness I said I'd check the reviews online first. It looks good, the spec is good, but apparently the running costs are astronomical, and the thing is HUGE!
The tax on one of those is more than my insurance and I know a couple of people with them who seem to spend most of their time giving money to garages whilst staring at the thing as it is once again wired up to the diagnostics thingymajig. And its a similar size and weight to a Chally.

That said, the allroad is supposed to be a good solid runner, as long as you don't treat it like a REAL off roader. My experience of the Nissans is limited but avoid the Navara and don't be bigger than 6 foot 2 for the X-Trail.

Foresters are a popular car, you would probably be able to get one a decent price that's in good nick. See plenty dragging caravans too.
 
#20
Plenty of TDV6 Range Rovers around in your price range. Road tax is he ame as a Hyundai Santa Fe 2ltr. Why drive Korean shit when you can have a Rangie?
Because he wants it to work?
 
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