What side is responsible for the new Cold war?

[KGB_resident]

www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-55356699

During his annual end-of-year news conference, Vladimir Putin was asked about relations between Russia and the West.
The BBC’s Steve Rosenberg asked the Kremlin leader whether Russian authorities consider themselves “white and fluffy” – a Russian expression which means squeaky clean – when it comes to accepting responsibility for worsening ties.
Mr Putin struck a defiant tone in an exchange with our correspondent when asked about Russia's role in the poisoning of Alexei Navalny, the country's most prominent opposition activist.

Personally, I don't have a clear answer. First of all, Washington struggles to remain the only superpower in the World (make America great again) but it looks that the USA later or sooner will lose this status. In this context Russia only by the fact of its existence (in current shape) is a natural threat to US status of the only superpower. At the same time Russia with Putin at power is more and more active, expansionist and even aggressive on the world stage. Putin's regime becomes more and more oppressive towards political opponents. Mr.Putin uses to remove from politics everybody who dares to contest his position at power. I mean mr.Navalny but not only him. Well known (alas only in Russia) left politician, former senior diplomat mr.Platoshkin is at home arrest during half year for absurd accusations.

 

[AsterixTG]

Russia isn't scary yet - wait until Putin dies.

That'll be one hell of a power vacuum that will take lots of blood to fill - best we can hope for is it internalises their focus for a while.

 

[Shockwave]

It’s a numbers game. Because the Reds had a much larger military than any one western nation, the only real counter to it was the N- bombs. Fast forward the vast technological renaissance of the latter part of the 20th century when hydrogen bombs and atom bombs were being made is mass and boom, you have an arms race. The Cold War was born

 

[Egg on Leggs]

Interesting that there is no mention of China.

 

[fantassin]

Only one date to consider - 1st October 2049 and the centenary of the People's Republic of China.

China will do EVERYTHING to reign supreme by this date.

Russia will hopefully be more part of the solution than the problem by then.

 

[FourZeroCharlie]

You seem determined to litter the site with your troll farm nonsense:

https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/ww3-news.302776/page-5#post-10452814

Thread reported.

 

[RBMK]

There is currently a 3 way power struggle between China, Russia and the USA.

Everyone is laughing at the EU for being a shambles and NATO is in danger of becoming a paper tiger. Trump has taken his eye off the ball and the US is involved in navel gazing and becoming insular again.

Both China and Russia want nothing less than world domination.

 

[KGB_resident]

Interesting that there is no mention of China.

It's fair point. But now China is strong mostly as an economic power. It's military and geopolitical might is quite bounded. China is unable to restore its power on Taiwan and Washington sells its weapons to Taiwan on billions of $$ while Chinese government has to swallow it.
But generally you are right. Previous Cold war was bipolar but current looks as multi polar one.

 

[olafthered]

It's fair point. But now China is strong mostly as an economic power.

Remind me again how the last one was brought to the point of conclusion?

But generally you are right. Previous Cold war was bipolar but current looks as multi polar one.

Indeed.

 

[Gravelbelly]

Russia isn't scary yet - wait until Putin dies.

That'll be one hell of a power vacuum that will take lots of blood to fill - best we can hope for is it internalises their focus for a while.

It won't take long - look at the moves from Brezhnev to Andropov to Chernenko to Gorbachev (three years, IIRC). Even with a big change in power, things moved quickly.

 

[AsterixTG]

It won't take long - look at the moves from Brezhnev to Andropov to Chernenko to Gorbachev (three years, IIRC). Even with a big change in power, things moved quickly.

Understood, but that was within the relatively controlled Party Machinery - This will be akin to a Dictator/Absolute Monarch falling with no obvious heir.

As mentioned, it'll be interesting to see what China will do as you can bet the farm they'll exploit any uncertainty or already have 'their guy' ready to make a move.

 

[olafthered]

Understood, but that was within the relatively controlled Party Machinery - This will be akin to a Dictator/Absolute Monarch falling with no obvious heir.

As mentioned, it'll be interesting to see what China will do as you can bet the farm they'll exploit any uncertainty or already have 'their guys' ready to make a range of moves, each subtle but worthwhile.

A minor tweak, but more oriental.

 

[FORMER_FYRDMAN]

Whichever side loses.

 

[ExAT_69A_Chepstow]

With the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the USSR the West had a chance to offer Russia support and assistance.
That we did not do so was a gross miscalculation by NATO and the EU.
By failing to recognise Russia's historic fear of invasion and pushing right up to their borders, the West has created a situation that has exacerbated Russian paranoia to the point where building any form of trust between the blocs will be a near impossible task.