What now the Labour Party?

Grownup_Rafbrat

LE
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Jezza. Of course not. He needs to reflect upon his brilliant manifesto and cunning plan. This will take many, many months.
Goody. No effective opposition while the nasty tories 'do their worst'.


Implement policies which actual working people want to happen.
 
Has he gone yet?
All he said was he would not lead Labour at the next general election. Just the same old same old magic grandad wishy washy, maybe yes maybe no, yeah but no but yeah but, turgid, uninspired, unleaderlike indecision reflecting on his style over the past 60 years. Squawkbox headline "Corbyn decides not to make a decision (again)"
 
All he said was he would not lead Labour at the next general election. Just the same old same old magic grandad wishy washy, maybe yes maybe no, yeah but no but yeah but, turgid, uninspired, unleaderlike indecision reflecting on his style over the past 60 years. Squawkbox headline "Corbyn decides not to make a decision (again)"
he will go as soon as he has ensured an even more lunatic ally left wing Momentum apparatchik is emplaced
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
All he said was he would not lead Labour at the next general election. Just the same old same old magic grandad wishy washy, maybe yes maybe no, yeah but no but yeah but, turgid, uninspired, unleaderlike indecision reflecting on his style over the past 60 years. Squawkbox headline "Corbyn decides not to make a decision (again)"
I noticed that, too.

Just sit back and watch the fighting start.
 

Blogg

LE
Has he gone yet?
Reported to be staying on as "Leader" until end of March 2020.

It's mostly irrelevant who is leader of Labour for the next few years anyway.

Just more wind and piss for the press whilst they fight and squabble.

PMQ's might be entertaining though as not so magic grandpa hisses and spits through questions about Gender Neutral toilets and fairness.
 

Slime

LE
As Corbyn’s successor is being mentioned, Labour MPs being interviewed today say they hope a replacement Labour leader could be in place by the end of March 2020.
 

Slime

LE
What I have found interesting over the weekend was that many Labour or Corbyn supporters have laid the blame for Corbyn/Labours defeat firmly with the media.
One commentator last night said more than 75% of the blame for Labours defeat was due to the negative media.

While that is going to be the excuse his supporters cling to in an attempt to delude themselves that the majority of the population preferred Corbyn it forgets some important things, one being that many of us had decided we didn’t like Corbyn or his views long before some of his ‘fans’ were even born.
 

RigPig

War Hero
Has he gone yet?
Leader of opposition wage vs common or garden MP wage for an extra 3 months. Of course he’ll stay on for a bit. Unless somebody tells me he he only takes the bare minimum, I can think of 50 thousand (pro rata) reasons to stay on for a bit longer.

RP.
 
What I have found interesting over the weekend was that many Labour or Corbyn supporters have laid the blame for Corbyn/Labours defeat firmly with the media.
One commentator last night said more than 75% of the blame for Labours defeat was due to the negative media.
If you only get your news from Facebook and Twitter, it must come as a big surprise that most of the country don't like Corbyn/Momentum/Marxism etc.
Interestingly the paper spouting the most anti-Corbyn stance since Thursday has been the Guardian!
 
Are any bookies doing odds of corbyn going before christmas?
I think he will get pushed asap......I just hope Burgon or some other shadow cabinet towering intellect gets the job.
 
Goody. No effective opposition while the nasty tories 'do their worst'.


Implement policies which actual working people want to happen.
The lack of an effective opposition is no cause for celebration.

Legislation should be tested, like evidence in court.

It's just Labour are crap.
 
Reported to be staying on as "Leader" until end of March 2020.

It's mostly irrelevant who is leader of Labour for the next few years anyway.

Just more wind and piss for the press whilst they fight and squabble.

PMQ's might be entertaining though as not so magic grandpa hisses and spits through questions about Gender Neutral toilets and fairness.
Don't agree, it's very relevant. If Labour is to rebuild itself in the image of what it used to stand for, working people and the disadvantaged, then whoever is to become it's leader must be the right person whether they're white, black, male, female, gay or straight.

The re-building needs to start immediately the new leader is in place and continue as long as the party exists, because the nature of the Labour Party means further challenges will arise.
 
Leader of opposition wage vs common or garden MP wage for an extra 3 months. Of course he’ll stay on for a bit. Unless somebody tells me he he only takes the bare minimum, I can think of 50 thousand (pro rata) reasons to stay on for a bit longer.

RP.
Doubt it's to do with money, rather that he wants a say in who replaces him and McDonut.
 

Slime

LE
If you only get your news from Facebook and Twitter, it must come as a big surprise that most of the country don't like Corbyn/Momentum/Marxism etc.
Interestingly the paper spouting the most anti-Corbyn stance since Thursday has been the Guardian!
Not only has the anti media rant continued today, but a new angle is being added.
Callers to radio stations (I haven’t watched a TV debate yet) are saying the electorate were too thick to understand Labour policies.
 
I wonder if the Labour Party will actually make a genuine effort to find out exactly why their former supporters turned against them. Was it just Corbyn, the man, or was it the figureheads such as McDonnell as well. Or was it the notion of these metropolitan champagne socialists being so far out of touch with the real working class. Or was it deeper, much much deeper in their policies: are they now seen as too immigrant-friendly, too liberal in that respect? Is it their defence policy, or their fiscal ineptitude? I doubt it's a singular thing, but I'm genuinely interested to know what, deep down, has been their downfall.

I doubt that answer will come from the Party itself, they're too up their own arses to even think to find out, much too keen to lay the blame on 'stupid' voters. The media's political commentators don't seem interested in digging deep either.
 
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Slime

LE
Doubt it's to do with money, rather that he wants a say in who replaces him and McDonut.
It will surely involved him wanting a ‘Corbyn lite’ replacement, but judging by his very early speech on election night I also feel he is desperate to avoid the ‘running from an unwanted referendum result’ in exactly the same way Cameron has been stuck with.
 
He will cling on like a bad smell.

Being mooted today that the Labour Leadership merry go round will run from January through to March.
Of course it will. Hence the dirt-dishing and exclusions for moderates or non-Corynites once the nominations are in.

Formby and her lot will rig in favour of whoever Jeremy, John, Seamus and Len annoint.

For me, within a hour of the result, we suddenly hear from Yvetter Cooper meekly saying 'We need a new leader'. It's surprising how quiet the majority of the moderates have been since they got their arse's handed to them when Jezza was re-elected. I suppose their main energies was placed in not being deselected
 
Or was it the notion of these metropolitan champagne socialists being so far out of touch with the real working class.
In a nutshell. Yes.
The London Labour party cannot get their heads around the fact that working people (note I said people, not class)are happy to pay a little more of their wages in tax, if that tax is used properly. We fully understand that money doesn't grow on trees and things have to be paid for. Free stuff is never really free. Most of all worrking people do not like to see their hard earned money wasted on the feckless, lazy degenerates who think the world owes them a living....but enough about the shadow cabinet.
 
I doubt that answer will come from the Party itself, their too up their own arses to even think to find out, much too keen to lay the blame on 'stupid' voters. The media's political commentators don't seem interested in digging deep either.
Maybe the Labour party could take a leaf of the the book written by the IDF

“The task was to generate intelligence estimates that ran contrary to Research Department assessments … This approach was important because it allowed for the consideration of a number of possible intentions of the enemy, including those deemed less probable than others.”
After all, the opposite might be true

Determined never to fall into the traps of poor analysis that led to Yom Kippur, the instituted a "10th Man/Devil's advocate" system of mandatory challenge to orthodox opinion. After all, if every war is a war of national survival, pays to be a winner.

I wonder if I could join for £3 and suggest it.

I could pay-per-view the resulting chaos at the local Labour club and probably retire.
 

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