anglo
LE
Boris didn't walk on 15th Oct, that's a fact,
What exactly is your problem with that?
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What now for the EU ?
- Thread starter Portree Kid
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LE
What exactly is your problem with that?
Krautman
LE
The first one was the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation that ended in 1806. The second one was Billy II.'s Kaiserreich from 1871-1918, Weimar was frowned upon, and the third one as we all know was from 1933-1945.
LeoRoverman
LE
I didn’t realise he’d included Barbarossa. That explains a lot. The HRE was not uniquely German was what I was getting at. I mean if he’d included the Austrian Empire, I could have understood it, since he was a failed Austrian.
anglo
LE
Spain has started to realize, the Brits will take no shit,
Spain prepares EMERGENCY Brexit deal with Gibraltar - Will 'leave no stone unturned'
The Spanish government is working urgently to agree a deal with Gibraltar in order to prevent the disruption for workers who cross into the territory for work. If no deal is reached, there could be serious disruption to the 15,000 people who cross the border to work in Gibraltar every day. Negotiators on both sides are hoping a deal can be reached by mid-November before three-way talks between Spain, Gibraltar and the UK.
www.express.co.uk
Spain prepares EMERGENCY Brexit deal with Gibraltar - Will 'leave no stone unturned'
The Spanish government is working urgently to agree a deal with Gibraltar in order to prevent the disruption for workers who cross into the territory for work. If no deal is reached, there could be serious disruption to the 15,000 people who cross the border to work in Gibraltar every day. Negotiators on both sides are hoping a deal can be reached by mid-November before three-way talks between Spain, Gibraltar and the UK.
Spain prepares EMERGENCY Brexit deal with Gibraltar - Will 'leave no stone unturned'
SPAIN is seeking a last-minute Brexit deal with Gibraltar in order to halt any disruption at the start of next year.
More fecking EU doublespeak. What The hell does 'leave no stone unturned' mean in the context of a deal under these circumstances?Spain has started to realize, the Brits will take no shit,
Spain prepares EMERGENCY Brexit deal with Gibraltar - Will 'leave no stone unturned'
The Spanish government is working urgently to agree a deal with Gibraltar in order to prevent the disruption for workers who cross into the territory for work. If no deal is reached, there could be serious disruption to the 15,000 people who cross the border to work in Gibraltar every day. Negotiators on both sides are hoping a deal can be reached by mid-November before three-way talks between Spain, Gibraltar and the UK.
Spain prepares EMERGENCY Brexit deal with Gibraltar - Will 'leave no stone unturned'
SPAIN is seeking a last-minute Brexit deal with Gibraltar in order to halt any disruption at the start of next year.
In modern times, no.
It's a big rock to remain unturned.
Truxx
LE
....leave no stone unturned in the creation of a level playing field.
That sort of stone turning?
ETA it could mean that they want a deal whatever it takes.
But that's not what they mean.
In the Spain - Gibraltar - UK context the EU doesn't matter.
What does matter is Spain has eventually caught up and realised that the EU isn't going to and simply cannot help Spain on the Gibraltar issue.
Spain will now make a deal with Gibraltar, the EU is not interested.
A big rock to leave in your shoe.
ExREME.TECH
LE
By then the VAG will be bankrupt
Krautman
LE
As usual, nothing is really easy with Hitler or the different empires from 1-3. Apart from being mad as a hatter Hitler was a believer in mysticism and occultism and saw himself chosen by "Providence". First of all, the term is not quite correct, from a legal point of view the Third Reich was still the old German Reich of 1871. The term "Third Reich" was coined at the end of the First World War by Dietrich Eckart, publisher and one of Adolf Hitlers mentors, a man who gave him some of his ideas. Arthur Moeller van den Bruck, a nationalistic publicist called his main work 1923 "The Third Reich" and thus contributed to the spread of the term.
The Nazis were not so enthusiastic about the term "Third Reich", it sounded a bit like "third place", but for Hitler there was a particular reason why he liked this term. The term had a mystical background. The term actually goes back to philosophical theories of history and actually means the "kingdom of the Holy Spirit". This sounds illogical at first because National Socialism and Christianity do not go well together. In order to understand this, one has to digress a little.
For this, I steal, because I'm too lazy, from a text written by an employee of the University of Berlin:
"Single-digit numbers have a special meaning. The number three stands for the mediating principle between opposites. In philosophy, the synthesis results from thesis and anthesis. Everywhere there are systems of three: In psychology, a distinction is made between ego, id and superego. In Christianity, God is represented as a Trinity. Finally, in various theories history is seen as being divided into three parts: Antiquity - Middle Ages - Modern Times is still common today.
In the Bible a distinction is made between the pagan, Jewish and Christian kingdom (Paul, Revelation of John). In the Middle Ages Joachim of Fiore distinguishes between the "Kingdom of the Father" (Old Testament), the "Kingdom of the Son" (New Testament) and the Kingdom of the "third divine person" ("Kingdom of Peace of the Holy Spirit"). Others contributed the idea of a struggle between good and evil, which resulted in a kind of final stage of humanity: the "Third Reich" is a kingdom of redemption, eternal kingdom. As ruler of the "Third Reich", Fiore predicted a figure that he nebulously referred to as "DUX". Dux is Latin and means in German : "Führer".
Around 1900, a play by Henrik Ibsen was premiered in which the term "Third Reich" was taken up again.
Hitler liked the mystical meaning of this term extremely well. He introduced it as a term together with the term "1000 year Reich" in a speech on 1.9.1933, where "1000 year" was synonymous with "eternal". In 1939, however, it was again banned and replaced by "Großdeutschland": The term allegedly provoked jokes and suggested that there would be a "Fourth Reich".
After the war, however, the term "Third Reich" was also used by the Allies and prevailed. The actual meaning is little known today."
ExREME.TECH
LE
You are like a cheap NAFI watch, it was on his twitter
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Higgs_bosun
MIA
No rational person would claim that the EU wanted brexit... The referendum was an election promise. Farage style claims of arrogance are unfounded....no more than applying regulations unanimously agreed. Propaganda and hatred did the rest.
Accusing me of constant name calling is to totally ignore the silly and pointless ad hominem attacks on valid points, you should be a moderator.
Your point about facts, reason, socialists, federalists and failure shows lack of research. The only failure is in your understanding. The EU are doing their absolute best to avoid a no deal because the consequences can be clearly seen as harmful to everyone. Those wanting to inflict maximum damage for some erroneous reasons are simply vandals...cutting off noses to spite their face. Although the EU will fair better than Britain perhaps "it will be worth it" as a means of realisation.
Berlin_104s
LE
Didn't it become the European Community in 1993 and the European Union in 2009? That's four incarnations in total.
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Berlin_104s
LE
Don't think this is EU business. It's trilateral talks between the UK, Gibraltar and Spain.
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Portree Kid
LE
I don't ever recall ANYONE ever saying that the EU wanted Brexit.
The question to be asked is - Why did the EU not want Brexit ?
After all, the UK has been nothing but a thorn in its side since 1975.
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aardvark64
War Hero
Colour me cynical, but the UK has always been a significant net contributor to the EU coffers.
That, plus access to the fishing grounds, the volume of sales of German luxury cars, and the vast amount of fines we pay to Brussels for non-implementation or tardy implementation of EU policy... Say 'good-bye' to a significant chunk of the EU gravy train.
We have always been a thorn in the side of the federalists: staunch allies of Denmark, Netherlands and more recently Poland. Our influence will be missed by the northern half of the union.
(and for the record, I would...)
The Irish bint didn't look too happy after that speech.
No, f*ck them. We don't owe any of them anything.
In the unlikely event that I don't get to her first. Two's Up!
Who all showed themselves as staunch allies in ganging up against us alongside the other 24 EU states. Especially Poland after we granted free movement to their citizens in 2004 when the only other countries to do so were Sweden and Ireland. Plus the vast amount of our contributions that went to Poland to upgrade their infrastructure, while we were suffering austerity and cuts to our own infrastructure and services.
No, f*ck them. We don't owe any of them anything.
In the unlikely event that I don't get to her first. Two's Up!
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sniper_bob
GCM
Missing the point yet again - is this deliberate?
Of course the EU wanted the UK in - we provided the gravy. My point is, had they acquiesced to Cameron's very modest requests, the referendum could have been avoided. Tusk is your culprit, he set out to humiliate Cameron and sent him home to the UK with a sore bottom. To many voters wavering between Leave of Remain, that was the last straw.
Tusk's hubris in 2015 has been echoed through the negotiations by every member of the EU Council, Barnier, Verhoftwat et al. They have sought a deal that the UK could never accept as a sovereign state and tried to bully, coerce and intimidate their way to victory (as they see it). Their whole negotiation strategy has been based on brinkmanship and still is. Boris knows this and is fully prepared to call their bluff.
You accept the EU's negotiation strategy without question but scold Johnson for adopting the only reasonable counter-argument to get a result the UK can accept. I don't think you understand how negotiations work at this level, do you?
