What now for the EU ?

The financial impact of the UK leaving is a very large chicken coming back into the hen house to roost.

Of the 27 EU countries only 9 (excluding the UK) are net contributors (in 2017)
These being:

Germany
France
Italy
The Netherlands
Austria
Finland
Sweden
Denmark
Ireland

So the other 16 are all taking money out of the system.
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Meanwhile, at the bottom of the pile:

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Hardly surprising that the remaining contributors are not happy.

And yet, the BBC and other news outlets have put up negligible coverage of this story. It's almost as if it's being swept under a big carpet somewhere.
 
Thats the French all over.
1. Someone somewhere owes them something.
2. They don't need to change, and have not done so since Napoleon.
I'm not about to tell them to change their ways in their own country, most sensible working people can see that there is a need to change, especially around pensions and their unsustainability.
What I do think is that we Anglo-Saxons could take note of the results of direct action to show governing politicians that some things are not acceptable, like closing village schools and post-offices, nursing homes etc.
I think local democracy could be much improved, and certainly some county councils in the UK need a good kick up the harris.
The last direct action in the UK that I saw achieve results was the fuel price protest and blockade some 20 odd years ago.
Marches and demos don't change or challenge anything at all, even when a million plus people are there.

And now back to the EU, William Hill are still giving 2/1 on Italy being the next to leave.
Personally I think it will be one of the 'frugals' when they are given the ultimatum by QMV on adopting the Euro instead of their own currency.
That narrows it down a bit!
 
Meanwhile something vaguely European, there have been state elections in Thuringen where until now die Linke (reformed communists) ruled under the Ministerpresident Bodo Ramelow. It was a very close run affair and it took 3 attempts to get a new Ministerpresident, the result was a surprise and there followed much chucking of teddies etc. An FDP (liberal) politician by the name of Thomas Kemmerich won, outside of Thuringen nobody had ever heard of him, until now. He won because the AfD ditched its own candidate and voted for Kemmerich, this resulted in die Linke, die Grünen and SPD having a major sense of humour failure. Kemmerich to his credit did not ask for the support of the AfD, it was their decision, furthermore he stated that he would not work with them.
What the offended parties seem to have forgotten is that like it or not the AfD was democratically voted into the Landtag (state parliament) it was their decision to support the FDP candidate. No laws have been broken and no rules or regulations have been infringed. Some people appear to like democracy, but only as long as it delivers the "correct" result. Let's hope that this was an isolated incident.
What nobody here in the government wants to hear is that the afd have become popular due to the wacko Immigration policies.
 
Out of interest, is there any residual anti-Government sentiment in Germany from those who were teed off at the estimated €2 trillion coughed up by the (predominantly former West German ) taxpayer in Unification Tax - sorry, Solidarity Surcharge (Solidaritätszuschlag).
I paid some of that too. In my view the attitude in Germany is i'm alright jack. Though most people resent having to pay ''Solidaritätszuschlag'' thirty years on, nobody really complains about it they just accept it like bloody sheep.
The government have now announced that the tax will be gradually phased out for most tax payers.
Sadly about two months later they then announced that the tax on electricity and fuel will be raised so as to save the planet.
So in effect it will be the same as before but more expensive.:mad:
 
I paid some of that too. In my view the attitude in Germany is i'm alright jack. Though most people resent having to pay ''Solidaritätszuschlag'' thirty years on, nobody really complains about it they just accept it like bloody sheep.
The government have now announced that the tax will be gradually phased out for most tax payers.
Sadly about two months later they then announced that the tax on electricity and fuel will be raised so as to save the planet.
So in effect it will be the same as before but more expensive.:mad:
Thanks for that. I was just wondering whether it would effect eurobudget perceptions amongst the tax-paying German electorate.
 
Thanks for that. I was just wondering whether it would effect eurobudget perceptions amongst the tax-paying German electorate.
Strangely i've not heard that mentioned at all yet.
They'll probably sneak that one in when everybody is distracted with the corona virus.
Strange how that is played up so much yet the amount of people who die every day through other causes such as car accidents,smoking or alchohol is deemed normal.
 
The financial impact of the UK leaving is a very large chicken coming back into the hen house to roost.

Of the 27 EU countries only 9 (excluding the UK) are net contributors (in 2017)
These being:

Germany
France
Italy
The Netherlands
Austria
Finland
Sweden
Denmark
Ireland

So the other 16 are all taking money out of the system.
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Meanwhile, at the bottom of the pile:

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Hardly surprising that the remaining contributors are not happy.

And yet, the BBC and other news outlets have put up negligible coverage of this story. It's almost as if it's being swept under a big carpet somewhere.
But there's rather more to it than that, now, isn't there?
 
Strangely i've not heard that mentioned at all yet.
They'll probably sneak that one in when everybody is distracted with the corona virus.
Strange how that is played up so much yet the amount of people who die every day through other causes such as car accidents,smoking or alchohol is deemed normal.
Point is, epidemics aren't "normal" and it's very much worth being on top of outbreaks.
 
Indeed. When the EU coffers get a bit empty they used to 'recalculate' the British contribution and strangely always seem to find that we have paid to little to the EU. Hence the "bill" for £1billion just before we left on 31/1/20. They knew that if they asked Britain for cash we would pay, I'm not sure the same could be said of some other EU MS.

This fact is starting to beat the EU MS around the head!
It was the same when they recalculated our contribution using a new criteria estimating profits made from drugs and prostitution, and said that we owed them an extra 2 billion on top of our normal bill

'Call me Dave' made a big song and dance about it. "We won't be paying this" he said. "its outragous". But he did. Very quitely a few weeks later.
 
They think its so flaucking good, they can pay for it.

But being good closet socialists, thry want to spend everyone else's money, not theirs. Its the same problem with the EU itself. Everyone saying “we insist on CAP funding” or “we want cohesion funding” but no one wants to pay.
If they think Poland is a problem state now. Wait until they take away cohesian funds.
 
The financial impact of the UK leaving is a very large chicken coming back into the hen house to roost.

Of the 27 EU countries only 9 (excluding the UK) are net contributors (in 2017)
These being:

Germany
France
Italy
The Netherlands
Austria
Finland
Sweden
Denmark
Ireland

So the other 16 are all taking money out of the system.
View attachment 451681

Meanwhile, at the bottom of the pile:

View attachment 451682

Hardly surprising that the remaining contributors are not happy.

And yet, the BBC and other news outlets have put up negligible coverage of this story. It's almost as if it's being swept under a big carpet somewhere.
Surprised at Luxembourg. But then perhaps not, given their “economy” is based entirely on offering money launderers somewhere to evade tax.
 
Surprised at Luxembourg. But then perhaps not, given their “economy” is based entirely on offering money launderers somewhere to evade tax.
Surprised me too, the tax business is down to that weasel scrote Jean Claude Juncker, who introduced in his time as Finanzminister. Nobody has bothered to change it since, quelle surprise.
 

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