What now for the EU ?

Rethinking is going on, just behind the scenes.
Just started in Paris is the Salon d'Agriculture, a national farmers show that every President since Asterix just has to be seen at, pressing flesh and listening to gripes.
Mainly a time for soundbites and photo-opportunities though.
Now rewind back just a couple of days to see that the very same said President summoned the editors of a number of rural French newspapers for a selected audience to report where he thought the agricultural industry should be heading.
A double spread (of propaganda) over two pages was then reported.
Just before the most important event in the calendar for farmers here.
Coincidence?

The times they are a changing, and I cannot think of a single group of workers and voters he has not pissed off yet.
French farmers are not to be fcuked with, they take no shit from anyone.
(They just dump many tons of it on your house/office doorstep)
This was what they thought of the Canada deal



Good luck EU
Say what?
 
The Salon d’Agriculture, in the past, has frequently been the big occasion on which French farmers have demonstrated their ‘disquiet’ at a Government stance.
Herds of cattle being let loose to graze on palletised grass in the Champs Elysées , for example.
My parents retired to Brittany about 7 years back. Their fairly small rural town in that time has had over 20 incidences of the supermarkets getting their trolley bays filled with manure in protests over the buy price of all sorts of agricultural goods and over 10 of the local dairy farmers pitching up, stealing all the milk and giving it away outside the supermarket over the price of milk. Zero police action in any of the cases.
 
Say what?
Macron is about to piss off some very poor and angry people, mostly those who raise livestock on a small farm and can't have holidays or even the luxury of a day off a week.
The CAP really does not go to all French farmers all over France.
Small farmers here are much like small farmers in the UK but with loads of stroppiness.
French farmers really do stroppiness, it is their right to do so.
Cops will never get involved, it is always a legal demonstration and protected in the constitution.
It is a matter between the employee and the employer or the state.

But it will never catch on in the UK, Germany or several other countries I could mention.

We need to learn proper stroppy. (4 lanes of tractors across the M25 at 15mph for a couple of days perhaps?)

That is stroppy.
 
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Thats the French all over.

1. Someone somewhere owes them something.

2. They don't need to change, and have not done so since Napoleon.
 
Thank krist we are (almost) out of it.
 
Macron is about to piss off some very poor and angry people, mostly those who raise livestock on a small farm and can't have holidays or even the luxury of a day off a week.
The CAP really does not go to all French farmers all over France.
Small farmers here are much like small farmers in the UK but with loads of stroppiness.
French farmers really do stroppiness, it is their right to do so.
Cops will never get involved, it is always a legal demonstration and protected in the constitution.
It is a matter between the employee and the employer or the state.

But it will never catch on in the UK, Germany or several other countries I could mention.

We need to learn proper stroppy. (4 lanes of tractors across the M25 at 15mph for a couple of days perhaps?)

That is stroppy.
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How did those budget negotiations go at the weekend.

I assume it was a great success and everyone left as happy chappies.

I heard it was a “four shirter” meeting. In reality it was probably a ten Grundies, with most attendies shiting themselves on an hourly basis when they realised that no longer have the UK piggy bank to plunder.
 
How did those budget negotiations go at the weekend.

I assume it was a great success and everyone left as happy chappies.

I heard it was a “four shirter” meeting. In reality it was probably a ten Grundies, with most attendies shiting themselves on an hourly basis when they realised that no longer have the UK piggy bank to plunder.
Strangely enough it hasn't even been mentioned in the German media. That could be due to the fact that the Thuringen election running goat f**k is still in full swing or that the Germans wish the whole budget matter will quietly go away. It won't.
 

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How did those budget negotiations go at the weekend.

I assume it was a great success and everyone left as happy chappies.

I heard it was a “four shirter” meeting. In reality it was probably a ten Grundies, with most attendies shiting themselves on an hourly basis when they realised that no longer have the UK piggy bank to plunder.
Indeed. When the EU coffers get a bit empty they used to 'recalculate' the British contribution and strangely always seem to find that we have paid to little to the EU. Hence the "bill" for £1billion just before we left on 31/1/20. They knew that if they asked Britain for cash we would pay, I'm not sure the same could be said of some other EU MS.

This fact is starting to beat the EU MS around the head!
 
Indeed. When the EU coffers get a bit empty they used to 'recalculate' the British contribution and strangely always seem to find that we have paid to little to the EU. Hence the "bill" for £1billion just before we left on 31/1/20. They knew that if they asked Britain for cash we would pay, I'm not sure the same could be said of some other EU MS.

This fact is starting to beat the EU MS around the head!
The sad thing is that we always seemed to accept the increasing demands - both financial and legislative.

BUT I have the solution.

Sell off EU citizenship to the remainers. Half a million a pop, and with just under half the population having voted to remain, make them pay for the EU that they love so much.

Whats that remainders? Not your problem?
 
The FT was in typical hand wringing mode last week, particularly about the souring relationship between Macron and Merkel. One article by deputy handwringer in chief Philip Stephens made me chuckle

“Age and temperament have always militated against the idea of Ms Merkel and France’s Emmanuel Macron as soulmates. They could have been partners”.

Born in 1954, Mutti Merkel’s young enough to be his wife.
 
The sad thing is that we always seemed to accept the increasing demands - both financial and legislative.

BUT I have the solution.

Sell off EU citizenship to the remainers. Half a million a pop, and with just under half the population having voted to remain, make them pay for the EU that they love so much.

Whats that remainders? Not your problem?
Excellent idea. If our contribution was net around £10bn a year, my rough estimate is an annual visa costing just under £600 a year from 17 million remainers will cover that.
 
Excellent idea. If our contribution was net around £10bn a year, my rough estimate is an annual visa costing just under £600 a year from 17 million remainers will cover that.
They think its so flaucking good, they can pay for it.

But being good closet socialists, thry want to spend everyone else's money, not theirs. Its the same problem with the EU itself. Everyone saying “we insist on CAP funding” or “we want cohesion funding” but no one wants to pay.
 

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Excellent idea. If our contribution was net around £10bn a year, my rough estimate is an annual visa costing just under £600 a year from 17 million remainers will cover that.
Thats not a bad idea.
 
Indeed. When the EU coffers get a bit empty they used to 'recalculate' the British contribution and strangely always seem to find that we have paid to little to the EU. Hence the "bill" for £1billion just before we left on 31/1/20. They knew that if they asked Britain for cash we would pay, I'm not sure the same could be said of some other EU MS.

This fact is starting to beat the EU MS around the head!
I did notice a few years ago that the EU were lobbing around very large fines for big companies such as Microsoft and Google.


The above link only covers until 2017, but Google caught one for 1.49Bn Euro's in 2019. It also appears that the EU is swinging for facebook for similar sum.

Lobbing a few "fines" around to "protect consumers", will I'm sure aid significantly in filling the BREXIT gap.
 

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I did notice a few years ago that the EU were lobbing around very large fines for big companies such as Microsoft and Google.


The above link only covers until 2017, but Google caught one for 1.49Bn Euro's in 2019. It also appears that the EU is swinging for facebook for similar sum.

Lobbing a few "fines" around to "protect consumers", will I'm sure aid significantly in filling the BREXIT gap.
Only if paid and the companies don't just desert the EU.
 

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That is the logical end point... but do you see the EU concerning itself with such factors?
The Commission can quite easily piss off large corporations to the extent they pull out of the EU, but it will never be the fault of the Commission. :(
 
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