What now for the EU ?

[Wordsmith]

There's me thinking that EU law held supremacy over national law. If the ECB's actions are in accordance with EU law then surely Germany must comply.

It's nice to see German feathers being ruffled from actions taken by an EU institution. Warms the cockles of me heart, so it does.

The constitutional Court has told the European Court of Justice to do one in spades, stating it has misinterpreted the law and acted outside its powers.
https://www.lexology.com/library/de...ay 2020, the,Sector Purchase Programme (PSPP).

On 5 May 2020, the German Federal Constitutional Court issued a judgment in which it declared a European Court of Justice ('ECJ') decision ultra vires in Germany. The ruling focused on the legality of aspects of the European Central Bank's ('ECB') Public Sector Purchase Programme (PSPP). The legality of this programme had previously been referred to the ECJ, wherein it had been determined lawful.

Ultra vires means "acting or done beyond one's legal power or authority".

The EU has responded by saying the German Constitutional Court was acting outside its powers.

The European Commission responded to the German Federal Constitutional Court ruling and stated that “notwithstanding the analysis of the detail of the German constitutional court’s decision today, we reaffirm the primacy of EU law and the fact that the rulings of the European Court of Justice are binding on all national courts.”

If the constitutional court upholds its judgement next month, we're heading for a very entertaining bout of fisticuffs between Germany and the European Commission.

Note that the constitutional court has not directly challenged the ECJ's supremacy - it has said it is in legal error. Which leaves the ECJ on shaky ground because past evidence suggests they bend EU law out of shape every time the European Commission is challenged. And this is going to be fought on points of law.

The German worm has turned.

Wordsmith

 

[Grumblegrunt]

Enjoying the show while prepping dinner.

 

[History_Man]

prepping dinner.

What flavour?

 

[ROMFT]

My Dutch teacher* insisted that Flemish is Dutch, I forget the actual phrase she used.

*A rather tasty blond with a doctorate in the Dutch language.

Again from my experience, once you get to the south of the Netherlands (Limburg-Brabant) the harsher sounds in Dutch tend to soften, especially the G which sounds like a serious medical throat problem in Holland becomes a soft, almost musical thing in Belgium. Also Flemish has absorbed more French words than Dutch, the easiest example being The Cops = Les Flics = De Flikken.
I have understood & been understood talking my Norn Irish accented Dutch in Antwerp.

 

[AlienFTM]

What flavour?

Cheap cider?

 

[Brotherton Lad]

What flavour?

Fish and chips, but after church.

 

[History_Man]

Fish and chips, but after church.

So, you're going to the chip shop?

 

[Brotherton Lad]

So, you're going to the chip shop?

No. Church.

 

[JuniorBod]

The constitutional Court has told the European Court of Justice to do one in spades, stating it has misinterpreted the law and acted outside its powers.
https://www.lexology.com/library/de...ay 2020, the,Sector Purchase Programme (PSPP).


Ultra vires means "acting or done beyond one's legal power or authority".

Quite...

Wait until the latest cunning financial shenanigans hits the court, I believe the treaties explicitly forbid mutualised debt and fiscal transfers between states...

JB

 

[Wightsparker]

Fish and chips, but after church.

At least it's not cooked daughter again.....................

 

[Grumblegrunt]

Fish and chips, but after church.

that's not prepping dinner.

and fish and chips on a holy day - what will your rabbi say?

confession for you my lad. and pennance, lots of pennance. with scraps

 

[Grumblegrunt]

At least it's not cooked daughter again.....................

Ooooooh it's one of those churches...............

I didn't take him for a puritanical witch burning type.

but then it is the evening service.

 

[Wordsmith]

Quite...

Wait until the latest cunning financial shenanigans hits the court, I believe the treaties explicitly forbid mutualised debt and fiscal transfers between states...

I suspect Article 125 will receive an airing...

EUR-Lex - 12012E125 - EN - EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

1. The Union shall not be liable for or assume the commitments of central governments, regional, local or other public authorities, other bodies governed by public law, or public undertakings of any Member State, without prejudice to mutual financial guarantees for the joint execution of a specific project. A Member State shall not be liable for or assume the commitments of central governments, regional, local or other public authorities, other bodies governed by public law, or public undertakings of another Member State, without prejudice to mutual financial guarantees for the joint execution of a specific project.

Going to take some fancy footwork to get around that article...

Wordsmith

 

[JuniorBod]

I suspect Article 125 will receive an airing...

EUR-Lex - 12012E125 - EN - EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

Going to take some fancy footwork to get around that article...

Wordsmith

What's that?

Illegal you say...

Change the treaties you say...

Referendums you say...

Feck....



JB

 

[Trackpen]

...
Going to take some fancy footwork to get around that article...

Wordsmith

That lot, frankly, would be a shoe-in for winning ‘Strictly’ and ‘Dancing on Ice’.