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What now for the EU ?

We've noticed that local supermarkets are now producing their own, UK made 'Grilling Cheese', which is the same as Haloumi but without some sweaty Cypriot getting involved in the process. We had some at the weekend and they make it round so it fits nicely into a burger.
My first intro to it was Cyprus in 1976, fried with eggs and some toast for 3am breakie before heading back to base, shower, don Uni and go to work for 5am.
 
I hope the Border Force have checked their paperwork to prove they have had the right inoculations, before they let them land.

And why are they not wearing masks ? And why are they not maintaining safe spacing ?

Or do these rules not apply to them ?
Or are the Border Force not enForcing the rules ?

So many question ......
I suspect there's more than meets the eye- couldn't be about fishing rights could it? HO seems to have put something out.
The main question - Why are they not being towed back to France?
There is the point that rescuees are subject to other rules. I did consider the fact that the Queen Vic was stooging around Lowestoft might have been an indicator
 

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I suspect there's more than meets the eye- couldn't be about fishing rights could it? HO seems to have put something out.

There is the point that rescuees are subject to other rules. I did consider the fact that the Queen Vic was stooging around Lowestoft might have been an indicator
Sorry, you have lost me there, what do you mean?
 
Sorry, you have lost me there, what do you mean?
BFO empty 'floating petri dish' which could accomodate/repatriate faarsands of 'em?

I'm sure Cunard (Carnival) would welcome a full ship's charter at megabucks per day. Many political/economic reasons why it wouldn't happen though.
 
My first intro to it was Cyprus in 1976, fried with eggs and some toast for 3am breakie before heading back to base, shower, don Uni and go to work for 5am.

Ditto a couple of years later at Pergamos Camp cookhouse.
There was an ACC cook and a couple of Cypriot assistants - and most of the meals had a local twist to it.
Bloody marvelous food.
 
Given that UK standards are in many cases higher than EU ones, that points to a clear post Brexit strategy: require all imports to the UK to conform to UK standards - and (where possible) increase the number of standards that are greater than EU ones. That'll mean that UK manufacturers can produce for both the domestic and EU markets, while EU manufacturers will not find it so easy to do the reverse. That should be entirely legal under WTO rules because individual countries are not being discriminated against, just asked to met a common standard.

I can't say for sure, because I'm not a legal expert, but I think this is another reason that the EU wanted a 'level playing field' - if the UK is free to impose it's own standards, it becomes more difficult for the EU to sell into the UK post Brexit. At the moment standards are common across the EU - even in the UK - i.e. we have had to adopt lower EU standards (my emphasis).



Another example of how the UK can look after it's own interests post Brexit.

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Except that the process by which UK standards are deemed to meet (or exceed) EU ones, is one which we're currently part of but will in future have to pay for as well as pay for our parallel one.

As with most conversations on UK - EU trade, we come to the uncomfortable fact that we are a comparatively small market for the EU, while the EU is a big market for us. Our manufacturers will be paying twice, in effect, for any chemical produts licensed to be sold in the EU.
Made in the UK certified

Grown in the UK certified



I would go further.

Every company should have a UK HQ, including multi-national conglomerates. Subject to UK rules, rules of employment, tax etc.

For example.

Starbucks ( UK )
Ford ( UK )
Add any name you like ( UK )



I think most people would also be happy to a little extra, in the knowledge that it was genuine UK goods and foods.


I've been doing this for years, fairly half-heartedly, last few months really doung it properly (mainly because I'm boycotting Chinese products). It's not that hard.
 

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As I understand it, once the fFrench authorities have escorted them to UK waters and have passed them to the UKBF, we apparently have a duty of care to them. Also returning them to fFrance would be illegal.
I don't understand why it would be legal for the frogs to escort them to British waters but illegal for us to refuse/turn them back. Time for this to be tested in court.
 

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I don't understand why it would be legal for the frogs to escort them to British waters but illegal for us to refuse/turn them back. Time for this to be tested in court.

As far as I remember, IMO rules say that if you rescue someone in your own waters you take them to your own country. Doesn't excuse the French 'escorting them to UK waters though'.
 
Sorry, you have lost me there, what do you mean?
Due to Covid Cunard couldn’t keep all their fleet there. Queen Victoria was off Lowestoft ness last month. With a potential of 20k people for a short crossing they could potentially use two liners to take our current population of rescues back to France on say January 31st next year. In fact even better they could emulate DDay ....just so long as the French don’t occupy the pill boxes.
 
As far as I remember, IMO rules say that if you rescue someone in your own waters you take them to your own country. Doesn't excuse the French 'escorting them to UK waters though'.

Surely they are "rescued" in French waters at the point they start the escort? If not, why not "escort" them back again.
 
I don't understand why it would be legal for the frogs to escort them to British waters but illegal for us to refuse/turn them back. Time for this to be tested in court.
It seems it's a very complex issue, not helped by the fFrench seemingly misinterpreting maritime law, and returning the inflatables to fFrance would require agreement with the fFrench.
Ms Patel has agreed to set up another new task force to crack down on the gangs behind the smuggling.

 

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