What now for the EU ?

Depends if the Brits stay out of it…
So far the score is France 1 plus a contested penalty, Germany 2. It will be going into extra time. The outcome will depend on the German elections. Mind Norway has gone red, so there'll be a shortage of oil and masses of money moving shortly. Luxemburg and London wait with baited breath. It's funny that the labour leader there looks a bit like Wedgie Benn
 
From the country which wants another 400,000 migrants a year after having already drawn in over a million. How amusing

It's a good thing France doesn't have any problem with migrants otherwise you would look very hypocritical.
 
So far the score is France 1 plus a contested penalty, Germany 2. It will be going into extra time. The outcome will depend on the German elections. Mind Norway has gone red, so there'll be a shortage of oil and masses of money moving shortly. Luxemburg and London wait with baited breath. It's funny that the labour leader there looks a bit like Wedgie Benn

Who's the ref, though?
 
So far the score is France 1 plus a contested penalty, Germany 2. It will be going into extra time. The outcome will depend on the German elections. Mind Norway has gone red, so there'll be a shortage of oil and masses of money moving shortly. Luxemburg and London wait with baited breath. It's funny that the labour leader there looks a bit like Wedgie Benn

The leader of the winning left wing party (that lost 40000 votes from the last election) is a multi millionaire, a large part of it comes from inherited wealth. He sends his kids to an independent school.
The strongest unions are in the oil/gas sectors.

I doubt much will change any time soon.
 
So far the score is France 1 plus a contested penalty, Germany 2. It will be going into extra time. The outcome will depend on the German elections. Mind Norway has gone red, so there'll be a shortage of oil and masses of money moving shortly. Luxemburg and London wait with baited breath. It's funny that the labour leader there looks a bit like Wedgie Benn
As you say Norway has gone to the Red/Green Faction.
Germany - the SPD look a shoe-in and one assumes a coalition with the greens.
France/Italy - seem to be moving rightwards.
Spain - Has its Catalan problem that isn't going away.
Eastern Europe - Is already far to the right of western Europe and only sign on to the EU for the cheque.

Just one big happy family !
 
As you say Norway has gone to the Red/Green Faction.
Germany - the SPD look a shoe-in and one assumes a coalition with the greens.
France/Italy - seem to be moving rightwards.
Spain - Has its Catalan problem that isn't going away.
Eastern Europe - Is already far to the right of western Europe and only sign on to the EU for the cheque.

Just one big happy family !
Isn’t it ironic how, without the influence of nasty, racist xenophobic, backward Britain, the EU seems to be drifting more and more to the right...
 
How do we all thing Britain would have done in 1939, if we had a land border with Germany and the army in the state it was?
 
As you say Norway has gone to the Red/Green Faction.
Germany - the SPD look a shoe-in and one assumes a coalition with the greens.
France/Italy - seem to be moving rightwards.
Spain - Has its Catalan problem that isn't going away.
Eastern Europe - Is already far to the right of western Europe and only sign on to the EU for the cheque.

Just one big happy family !
Not necessarily, the forecasts are to be taken with the utmost caution, as the last elections proved, and the parties are quite close to each other.
I don't even want to know what the coalition negotiations will look like after the election; it will be another long, long hanging game.
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How do we all thing Britain would have done in 1939, if we had a land border with Germany and the army in the state it was?
pretty much easy peasy. The Germans had no real gripe with us, indeed Hitler was an admirer- You should really read the "deadly embrace" and bone up on that bit. It's more about mixed messages and -um- dare I say it- France.
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I have to say ETA once I had read it the scales fell away-it's simply a must.
 
That is apparently what they're worried about. Labour does have form for Dismantling and Assett stripping.

I live in the Stavanger area (The main oil and gas area) they arent that arsed. Its business as usual, they make a fortune for the Norwegian treasury, provide 100s of thousands of jobs and the Green party (on 3 seats) isnt going to get a look in.
The champagne socialist will look to other areas to **** around in. Its very much like Blairs Labour party.
 
So far the score is France 1 plus a contested penalty, Germany 2. It will be going into extra time. The outcome will depend on the German elections. Mind Norway has gone red, so there'll be a shortage of oil and masses of money moving shortly. Luxemburg and London wait with baited breath. It's funny that the labour leader there looks a bit like Wedgie Benn
Your spellchecker needs sorting. It made a mistake with the second last word. Although I must admit I wasn't aware Tony was from Glesga.
 
Isn’t it ironic how, without the influence of nasty, racist xenophobic, backward Britain, the EU seems to be drifting more and more to the right...
Its drifting in any direction that promises change. Even mainstream parties down on their luck, are now casting themselves as agents of change/chaos. What people want is government to stop compromising and the economic/political establishment wants weak collaborative governments.

I think if Karl Marx was alive today, he would say western europe is ripe for revolution as class war is pretty much everywhere and infects every issue. Ironically, the parties of the left are purveyors of weak collaborative compromise and have failed to connect strongly with the people and are more so part of the elite establishment and why the right is what the establishment most fears, as it can wave the flag and the working class people once considered docile can still be made to rally.
 
Its drifting in any direction that promises change. Even mainstream parties down on their luck, are now casting themselves as agents of change/chaos. What people want is government to stop compromising and the economic/political establishment wants weak collaborative governments.

I think if Karl Marx was alive today, he would say western europe is ripe for revolution as class war is pretty much everywhere and infects every issue. Ironically, the parties of the left are purveyors of weak collaborative compromise and have failed to connect strongly with the people and more so with the elite establishment and why the right is what the establishment most fears, as it can wave the flag and the working class people once considered docile can still be made to rally.
I feel the West is at a sort of counter-revolution stage. There has been a social revolution going on since the 70s, with a radical left-wing march through the institutions.

This had created a disconnect between the elite and the plebs, and the plebs have woken up.

Brexit was effectively a very typical British revolution. No one got hurt, but everything has changed, and those in charge know their place (for now).

The US, I feel, is having a more painful revolution but, in the end, money talks, and the money is leaving the politically correct states.

As for Europe (well, Western Europe), I have a bad feeling. Their political structures have a built-in conformity and continuity; the need for coalition means things rarely change, no matter how you vote. That means voting for the usual groups will not change anything, leaving violence or extremists as the way to go.
 

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