What now for the EU ?

Anything happening in Northern Ireland has got sod all to do with the Americans. I don't care how Irish President Biden thinks he is, It's got fvck all to do with him or any other American.

Boris needs to tell him to do one, it's a British matter and the British government will deal with it. This $hit really boils my pi$$. What a bunch of arrogant twats!
 
Anything happening in Northern Ireland has got sod all to do with the Americans. I don't care how Irish President Biden thinks he is, It's got fvck all to do with him or any other American.

Boris needs to tell him to do one, it's a British matter and the British government will deal with it. This $hit really boils my pi$$. What a bunch of arrogant twats!
I think Boris should ask Joe what his response would be to the EU telling the US what they can and can't transport to Hawaii.
 
I think Boris should ask Joe what his response would be to the EU telling the US what they can and can't transport to Hawaii.

Just one of the things I hate about these trough feeders, they just can't keep their nose out of other countries business. I'd be a mite happier if the twats spent as much time trying to sort the problems we have here in the US.

It's their arrogance that pi$$es me off.
 
And cite the fact that the Hawaiian flag has a British Union Flag in the corner.

Apparently it's a mark of the British Empire's historical relations with the Hawaiian Kingdom, particularly with King Kamehameha I.

Every day a school day.
 
Anything happening in Northern Ireland has got sod all to do with the Americans. I don't care how Irish President Biden thinks he is, It's got fvck all to do with him or any other American.

Boris needs to tell him to do one, it's a British matter and the British government will deal with it. This $hit really boils my pi$$. What a bunch of arrogant twats!
Hey hold on Mr. Snappy pants you seem to forget the connection we Colonials have to the emerald isle in 2021!

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Ireland is important one day a year...


What was the subject again?
 
Hey hold on Mr. Snappy pants you seem to forget the connection we Colonials have to the emerald isle in 2021!

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Ireland is important one day a year...


What was the subject again?

There is no connection except in the minds of plastic paddies.
 
There's the common logical error right there, and with respect a foolishly divisive one: " and we Remainers completely failed to overturn or disregard the result despite a further three plus years of attritional and highly divisive politics and using every dirty trick in the book", and you foolishly attempt to put those words in my mouth and the mouths of every one of the 16 million British voters who voted remain. What dirty tricks do you think I and all those voters have been using?

As it happens I voted remain at the time, and would probably do so again if a time machine was to take me back to exactly the same situation in 2016. But now, when the decision has been taken, when new opportunities need to be seized by the UK and when the EU has moved in a particular direction no longer tempered by pragmatic British Influence? I would vote Leave (or stay out) were a new vote to be called now. I'm not being party political, that's just how I would personally vote, as would several family members and friends.

I'm sure you are not an idiot, but you are an idiot to keep fighting a battle already won, and continue insulting fellow citizens with whom you could be allies. Get over it, get over it, you won, there are clearly still problems and controversies and this doesn't mean I am likely to agree with you on everything which has happened since 2016 but on the basic question, get over it, time to move on.

Thanks though for making the point for me, FOC? thanks.
 
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and you foolishly attempt to put those words in my mouth and the mouths of every one of the 16 million British voters who voted remain. What dirty tricks do you think I and all those voters have been using?

It wasn't Leavers that were crowdfunding the Legal action taken by the schlong AKA Jolyon Maugham ( That were all booted out of Court )

It wasn't Leavers that were funding the Legal Action taken by the midden AKA Gina Millar.

If 17 million Leavers can be labelled racists, xenophobes and a whole raft of other ' Ists ' and ' Ism's ' then it is only fair that 16 million remainers can be lumped in with the other b@wb@gs that did indeed stoop to dirty tricks to try and get Brexit halted / delayed / obstructed / dragged out in perpetuity.

If that pains you

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Phone the Padre.
 
I think Boris should ask Joe what his response would be to the EU telling the US what they can and can't transport to Hawaii.
Boris should tell old Joe that he supports the restoration of the Hawaian monarchy and to its indigenous people after the coup and annexation by thieving Yankees. Especially after the British Empire had respected the sovereignty of the Hawaian King and their people. We even forgave them for killing Captain Cook and eating him for breakfast. Normally that would warrant a gunboat and sacking a few cities.

What was that Joe was saying about Ireland again?
 
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There's the common logical error right there, and with respect a foolishly divisive one: " and we Remainers completely failed to overturn or disregard the result despite a further three plus years of attritional and highly divisive politics and using every dirty trick in the book", and you foolishly attempt to put those words in my mouth and the mouths of every one of the 16 million British voters who voted remain. What dirty tricks do you think I and all those voters have been using?

As it happens I voted remain at the time, and would probably do so again if a time machine was to take me back to exactly the same situation in 2016. But now, when the decision has been taken, when new opportunities need to be seized by the UK and when the EU has moved in a particular direction no longer tempered by pragmatic British Influence? I would vote Leave (or stay out) were a new vote to be called now. I'm not being party political, that's just how I would personally vote, as would several family members and friends.

I'm sure you are not an idiot, but you are an idiot to keep fighting a battle already won, and continue insulting fellow citizens with whom you could be allies. Get over it, get over it, you won, there are clearly still problems and controversies and this doesn't mean I am likely to agree with you on everything which has happened since 2016 but on the basic question, get over it, time to move on.

Thanks though for making the point for me, FOC? thanks.
Once upon a time; 55% of people in polling thought that Brexit was possibly a mistake and perhaps we should rejoin at a future date, it was that which gave hope to those desiring to overturn the referendum. That number has fallen to 43% and that is courtesy of the media, who gave the EU and its supporters free rein and created such a polar shift in public attitudes that it finished off the remain movement.

As for Ulster, I'm not sure parts of those communities fully understood how far the Beeb had successfully sold a united Ireland to the British People. IF Ulster is to remain part of the United Kingdom, its best long term chance was the mainland outside of the European Union. For the short term, the UK had little tactical choice but to sell out Ulster for awhile, that was reinforced when Trump lost his election.

On the EU; what we are seeing at the moment is an immature entity constantly trying to stay relevant by creating administrative/bureaucratic crisis to get attention and behind the scenes, the talk of ditching vetoes is a good example of the undemocratic forces within Brussels are preparing another big push before somebody else recognises how pointless the entire thing is to everyone, but France/Germany.
 

Joker62

ADC
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Bidens claim to being Irish is a great great grandpa/ma. 1840's migrant to the US, I think.
1/16th Irish?
Obviously as Irish as Barry O'Bama!
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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There's the common logical error right there, and with respect a foolishly divisive one: " and we Remainers completely failed to overturn or disregard the result despite a further three plus years of attritional and highly divisive politics and using every dirty trick in the book", and you foolishly attempt to put those words in my mouth and the mouths of every one of the 16 million British voters who voted remain. What dirty tricks do you think I and all those voters have been using?

As it happens I voted remain at the time, and would probably do so again if a time machine was to take me back to exactly the same situation in 2016. But now, when the decision has been taken, when new opportunities need to be seized by the UK and when the EU has moved in a particular direction no longer tempered by pragmatic British Influence? I would vote Leave (or stay out) were a new vote to be called now. I'm not being party political, that's just how I would personally vote, as would several family members and friends.

I'm sure you are not an idiot, but you are an idiot to keep fighting a battle already won, and continue insulting fellow citizens with whom you could be allies. Get over it, get over it, you won, there are clearly still problems and controversies and this doesn't mean I am likely to agree with you on everything which has happened since 2016 but on the basic question, get over it, time to move on.

Thanks though for making the point for me, FOC? thanks.

The battle may be won but the war continues. Large chunks of the Establishment were seriously embarrassed and given a very public lesson in the limits of their power. That's not something they've forgiven, they haven't made peace with the result and they are looking to get even - again, regardless of the wider cost to the country.

Look at the current support for the complete revision and distortion of this country's history, together with the associated angst, and Remain hardliners in the Media, the Arts and Academia are extremely well represented, not least because it's a chance to attack things that many Brexiteers value.

I have absolutely no quarrel with anyone who accepted the referendum outcome when it was known, which is just as well or I'd lose half my friends and be divorced, but I have no hesitation in condemning those who didn't and who used every underhand tactic in the book to try to get their way for the next three years.

These people haven't accepted the result and never will. They've simply been left with a de facto situation after exhausting their options. That's the reality and I'm not going to pretend that these hardliners have now seen the light and are potential allies or subscribe to the fiction that they were all good sports in the end; they haven't, they're not, they weren't and they bear watching because, if they can attempt to subvert a legitimate public choice once, they are certainly capable of doing it again and their behaviour displays a complete contempt for the democratic process.

If they now find it acceptable to stoke racial tensions and provoke a cultural civil war that's probably not surprising but it makes them doubly dangerous and they should be called out at every opportunity for being the creatures they undoubtedly are.
 

philc

LE
Two Great Great grandfather's migrated from Ireland to the US according to the article. But hazy on the women folk.

It depends on how you qualify "Irish". Do his great grandparents, grand parents, parents born and raised in the USA not class as being American?

Its a bizarre thing, US Presidents claiming heritage to a country they know nothing of, Bush family, Irish, Clinton Irish, Regan Irish, Trump Scottish, Obama Somalian or something, Biden Irish, Jimmy Carter seems about the most normal mix and did not make an issue about it as far as I recall, Carter was a European mix, which you would expect, English, Welsh, Irish, Scots with some German, French & Dutch.

If saying you great great granddaddy was from the old country is a huge vote winner, something is very wrong.
 
Two Great Great grandfather's migrated from Ireland to the US according to the article. But hazy on the women folk.

It depends on how you qualify "Irish". Do his great grandparents, grand parents, parents born and raised in the USA not class as being American?

The stupid old **** just makes it up for the votes, then wonders why immigrants arent assimilating although he will blame racism for that.
 

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