What now for the EU ?

green_slime

War Hero
Of course Biden’swilling to waive IP rights on Pfizer vaccine.

German owned patent.
Predominantly manufactured in the EU, mainly Germany.
Tax revenue collected by Germany.
I was under the impression that the French issue with vaccine rollout was in the demand from the population (as a result of Marcon's comments) rather than supply. Can anyone confirm?
 

green_slime

War Hero
Yes, the French don't want to take it.
Thanks.

Talking to OA about this a couple of days ago, planning for future hols. If the Fr do not get their vaccine levels up, both rate and take up, then they might suffer another seasonal increase this winter. That would stuff another ski season and possible up to next Easter to reopen.

That is why we are going to Sweden next March now:)
 
Thanks.

Talking to OA about this a couple of days ago, planning for future hols. If the Fr do not get their vaccine levels up, both rate and take up, then they might suffer another seasonal increase this winter. That would stuff another ski season and possible up to next Easter to reopen.

That is why we are going to Sweden next March now:)

You're welcome. Some acquaintances of mine are abandoning France in favour of the slopes in the Czech Republic next year.
 

green_slime

War Hero
The elections in UK seems to have rewarded the incumbent leadership for a successful vaccine rollout (in main Eng, Scot and Wales remained in place - even Wales!). If so then Fr and De citizens may wish to punish and change governments, in particular if they lose another external tourist season. Those incumbents might not be so willing to fund and expensive and expansive EU establishment in favour of focusing resources at home.

Could COVID's last victim be the EU?
 
You're welcome. Some acquaintances of mine are abandoning France in favour of the slopes in the Czech Republic next year.

Slovakia is worth a punt for skiing.

We got a steal of holiday on Secret Escapes to Jasna, in the lower Tatras.

Thought it might be a bit 3rd world, but was astonished at how everything was gleaming - from the brand new airport, roads and bridges, to the brand spanking new infrastructure of the ski area.

We stayed at the Tri Studnicky hotel, which was immense, and cheap as chips at 90 cents a pint of golden throat charmer.
 
Slovakia is worth a punt for skiing.

We got a steal of holiday on Secret Escapes to Jasna, in the lower Tatras.

Thought it might be a bit 3rd world, but was astonished at how everything was gleaming - from the brand new airport, roads and bridges, to the brand spanking new infrastructure of the ski area.

We stayed at the Tri Studnicky hotel, which was immense, and cheap as chips at 90 cents a pint of golden throat charmer.
I like the Slovaks. Once they find out you aren’t Russian or German you can see the older ones relax a bit ( even though the older mob speak virtually no English I allways got along fine. I believe the Herman’s are not quite so welcome, ( though no doubt their euros are).
 
I was under the impression that the French issue with vaccine rollout was in the demand from the population (as a result of Marcon's comments) rather than supply. Can anyone confirm?
It’s a combination of both in France.

Europe wide has had a vaccine shortage.

initially, the EUs vaccine strategy was based on Sanofi and Pfizer vaccines. The French pharma company Sanofi (ironically a former subsidiary of IG Farben) failed in developing a vaccine.

The French are now in the process of producing Pfizer vaccines on French production lines that were kept shut for over 6 months because they gambled on manufacturing their vaccine.

macron has bad mouthed AstraZeneca vaccine reducing trust unit.

so France now has a supply issue, combined with a population who normally reluctant to get vaccinated, being offered a vaccine that their president has destroyed confidence in.
 
So poorer EU countries now buy an expensive vaccine that’s German made and German designed .
If poorer EU countries can't see the cynical game being played out then they deserve everything they get.
 
Thanks.

Talking to OA about this a couple of days ago, planning for future hols. If the Fr do not get their vaccine levels up, both rate and take up, then they might suffer another seasonal increase this winter. That would stuff another ski season and possible up to next Easter to reopen.

That is why we are going to Sweden next March now:)
Bumped into a friend last week who owns and was just back from a chalet in Morzine where they spend every Christmas to April over there. She, her partner and the one accompanying child all received their first vaccinations from the French whilst over there as the French didn't want to be vaccinated with AZ so the local hospital were offering it to the few expats remaining there regardless of settlement status.
 
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French irony


He wouldn't be calling for waiving any patents or export bans if the Pasteur Institute and Sanofi had a working vaccine back in December when the French vaccination programme allegedly started.
With 700 jabbed nationally in that first week.
People can still remember that, even if he can't and the remarks about Oxford AZ then too in order to divert away from a failing procurement programme by a trade organisation headquartered in another country.
That will be the last time that any nation state allows the health of their own citizens to be affected in the way that this has panned out.
 
The French obviously cannot see what they are doing to themselves, they continually shoot themselves in the foot. People are avoiding French products or avoiding travelling through or to France.

Have even heard rumblings of transport companies moving their routes via Holland or Spain and bypass France altogether.
 
The French obviously cannot see what they are doing to themselves, they continually shoot themselves in the foot. People are avoiding French products or avoiding travelling through or to France.

Have even heard rumblings of transport companies moving their routes via Holland or Spain and bypass France altogether.

It's the Maginot Line all over again when French farmers and fisher-people blockade, and all the trade re routes round them.
 

Waldeck

Old-Salt
The elections in UK seems to have rewarded the incumbent leadership for a successful vaccine rollout (in main Eng, Scot and Wales remained in place - even Wales!). If so then Fr and De citizens may wish to punish and change governments, in particular if they lose another external tourist season. Those incumbents might not be so willing to fund and expensive and expansive EU establishment in favour of focusing resources at home.

Could COVID's last victim be the EU?

We can always hope this will be the case.
 
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