What now for the EU ?

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Macron has just over 2 years to go until he is out.
He is currently under fire from all directions mainly for not paying enough attention to France and the French people, and far too much to his European ambitions.
At a guess, the thing that will return him will be if if his opponent in the Second Round is Le Pen. Given the opprobrium she still attracts, this would probably be enough for Leftists to rally to him in order to keep her out.
 
At a guess, the thing that will return him will be if if his opponent in the Second Round is Le Pen. Given the opprobrium she still attracts, this would probably be enough for Leftists to rally to him in order to keep her out.
Maybe but maybe not.
Melanchon (Commie twat) has got himself a criminal conviction after the flics raided his office and he is still under investigation for expenses and funding, as is Le Pen.
The Tory equivalent will still not be able to get it together in time and people will still be very pissed off with him.
Sarko is still on bail and perhaps politics and politicians in general are not as respected or believed as they were 10 years ago anywhere really.
Some people abroad just might hold their noses next time, there are plenty of towns like Darlington outside the UK.
 
Not buying into someone elses argument, but quoting Wayne Swann is unwise. This is the ex Deputy PM who was advising the government in September of this year to “Tax and Spend”. His economic performance is pretty well discredited, and he tried to spend his way out of the GFC, leaving Australia with horrendous debts. He is a classic socialist economist and would fit into the EU perfectly.

From memory the current government have said they would be very happy to sign a trade deal with australia.
Commendably restrained of you. The closer you look at Swann;s philosophies and performance, the more threadbare they are. He happily reveals himself as an unreconstructed old-school class warrior, and remains guided by economically illiterate resentments and statist dreams. As Treasurer (Chancellor of Exchequer?) he confidently predicted no less than 5 budget surpluses and delivered none, and his recent utterances suggest he's no wiser or insightful now.

As to Australia's view on Brexit, Swan may speak for the diminishing band of Fabianists but the 'man on the wallaby track' understands how the UK has found the EU to be both smothering and schoolmarmish, and wishes the UK well.

The EU are seen as a bit of a swamp here in AU, because while they're keener now they have stalled an AU/EU trade agreement for years on end due to a demand from Italy that they have no resistance to dumping Italian canned tomatoes on to our market. That's it. Those years of intransigence are now melting away, but it's suspected that's more to do with trying to nobble future AU/UK relations.

Swan's view is just that. A globalist's thwarted dream.
 
Macron has just over 2 years to go until he is out.
He is currently under fire from all directions mainly for not paying enough attention to France and the French people, and far too much to his European ambitions.
Maybe we are forgetting that the French people voted Non in 2005 to any European Constitution which late led to the imposition of the Lisbon Treaty and no fcuker being given a vote on that?
His arse is being badly bitten at the moment by the populace, and he has to face the possibility of Mme Le Pen running again in the future.
It is not in his remit to even think about giving up the seat on the UNSC, about as likely as the UK offering to share ours or even give it up.
Funny as f*ck, isn't it. He thought his farts didn't smell when he got voted in. Now he's glad it's not 1789..
 
Funny as f*ck, isn't it. He thought his farts didn't smell when he got voted in. Now he's glad it's not 1789..
My French partner (have I not mentioned before that my partner is French btw) mentioned at the time of Macron's election that the EU must be stupid to believe that the French people don't know that he (Macron) is the EU's boy.
The French for all of their many faults are no more fans of globalisation than we (the UK) are.
The memory of WW2 is still very much alive in France, especially outside of Paris.
The French are a very nationalist nation. They will always be French first, and EU citizens second.
Macron is just marking time.
 
My French partner (have I not mentioned before that my partner is French btw) mentioned at the time of Macron's election that the EU must be stupid to believe that the French people don't know that he (Macron) is the EU's boy.
The French for all of their many faults are no more fans of globalisation than we (the UK) are.
The memory of WW2 is still very much alive in France, especially outside of Paris.
The French are a very nationalist nation. They will always be French first, and EU citizens second.
Macron is just marking time.
Well, I'd be glad to see the blighters rise up and declare Frexit and enter into an alliance with the Rosbifs.
However, is the EU worth too much to them to do so ?
 
My French partner (have I not mentioned before that my partner is French btw) mentioned at the time of Macron's election that the EU must be stupid to believe that the French people don't know that he (Macron) is the EU's boy.
The French for all of their many faults are no more fans of globalisation than we (the UK) are.
The memory of WW2 is still very much alive in France, especially outside of Paris.
The French are a very nationalist nation. They will always be French first, and EU citizens second.
Macron is just marking time.
Yup, he even coughed on national TV that if he ever offered the nation a vote on Frexit it may go the wrong way, which is why he never will.
Quite telling really.
Ms Le Pen on the other hand ....................................
 
Well, I'd be glad to see the blighters rise up and declare Frexit and enter into an alliance with the Rosbifs.
However, is the EU worth too much to them to do so ?
I suspect that the anti EU sentiment in France will grow louder when the French have to start stumping up more money towards the EU's globalist plans.
 
At a guess, the thing that will return him will be if if his opponent in the Second Round is Le Pen. Given the opprobrium she still attracts, this would probably be enough for Leftists to rally to him in order to keep her out.
She will be the opponent but shes already closed the polling gap to 45/55. A 'but wah wacist' campaign should sufficiently knacker the unpopular smug twats lead.

Across Europe people are getting sick of being told who they can't vote for by entitled tossers.
 
The French for all of their many faults are no more fans of globalisation than we (the UK) are.
The memory of WW2 is still very much alive in France, especially outside of Paris.
The French are a very nationalist nation. They will always be French first, and EU citizens second.
They were loving an united Europe in WW2.

The Germans would have found it quite hard to occupy all of France had they not become Vichy lapdogs.
 
They were loving an united Europe in WW2.

The Germans would have found it quite hard to occupy all of France had they not become Vichy lapdogs.
Point taken, but imo that had more to do with the pre-war politics. French politics in the late 30s was a total mess. They even had, something like; five leaders in the space of a few years, I believe.
The left and the right hating each other more than anything else.
However, now the left and the right both hate the EU, but for entirely different reasons.
 
It was very secondary school childish even by those standards then

Jeremy Scott opens a parcel which is in fact a bomb

It goes puff!

Told you
secondary school ? We had shotguns at my boarding school , (not allowed to touch them) and we did not hire anyone to shoot someone, however I have to admit to one nurse I could have willingly let have both barrels. Oh and a teacher and matron, good job I could not get hold of them innit
 
secondary school ? We had shotguns at my boarding school , (not allowed to touch them) and we did not hire anyone to shoot someone, however I have to admit to one nurse I could have willingly let have both barrels. Oh and a teacher and matron, good job I could not get hold of them innit
Liked the list up on the notice board at N Molesworth's skool..

Shooting.
The following boys will be shot.....
 

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My French partner (have I not mentioned before that my partner is French btw) mentioned at the time of Macron's election that the EU must be stupid to believe that the French people don't know that he (Macron) is the EU's boy.
The French for all of their many faults are no more fans of globalisation than we (the UK) are.
The memory of WW2 is still very much alive in France, especially outside of Paris.
The French are a very nationalist nation. They will always be French first, and EU citizens second.
Macron is just marking time.
I agree, to an extent. The French are very much for the French, but they are also the closest to a socialist, almost communist, state in the EU and they see the EU as the socialist dream - just that they also want France to be the top dog in the countries of equal!
 
I agree, to an extent. The French are very much for the French, but they are also the closest to a socialist, almost communist, state in the EU and they see the EU as the socialist dream - just that they also want France to be the top dog in the countries of equal!
Some are just a little more equal than others then.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
 

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