What now for the EU ?

Themanwho

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Oyibo

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What news from Kent?
It's as cosmopolitan as ever...
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Let's not worry about people dying, EU unity and credibility comes first
This may ... just may .... turn into a defining point as to the future of the EU .... unless speedy action and some flair is demonstrated to resolve the problem the ordinary folk ... that is those who survive ... will not forget how they have been let down .
 
This may ... just may .... turn into a defining point as to the future of the EU .... unless speedy action and some flair is demonstrated to resolve the problem the ordinary folk ... that is those who survive ... will not forget how they have been let down .
The delay includes the UK as well,

Feck knows why anyone would think about this in political terms.
 
The delay includes the UK as well,

Feck knows why anyone would think about this in political terms.
By speedy action and flair I was thinking as an example of the faster acceptance of alternatives such as the Oxford University vaccine which was approved for use in the UK in December ... I believe it has been offered for approval and use in the EU .... I am not making a political point ... in all my recent posts on this thread my concern has been for ordinary people .
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

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"Six nations called the situation "unacceptable" and warned it "decreases the credibility of the vaccination process".
I'm sure @irlsgt will be along soon to tell us why this is a good thing.

Would it be those same six nations in the EU that somehow seem to have higher youth unemployment than Iraq at only 25%?

 
The delay includes the UK as well,

Feck knows why anyone would think about this in political terms.
Yes, but the UK is doing much better at this vaccination lark than the EU.

There are also a fair few EU countries who signed up to the joint vaccine scheme who are left with with no backups to tide them over u til the delay in delivery is overcome.

I saw on the news the other morning that the UK had 21 million doses of vaccine in country at various stages of approval etc (I can't find a link so this has to be taken with a pinch of salt).
 

ancienturion

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'Sluverlee, the garden of England. A bit wet at the moment though, and there's a shortage of twigs.

Plenty of Poles and others of suitable Eastern European lineage though.
 
By speedy action and flair I was thinking as an example of the faster acceptance of alternatives such as the Oxford University vaccine which was approved for use in the UK in December ... I believe it has been offered for approval and use in the EU .... I am not making a political point ... in all my recent posts on this thread my concern has been for ordinary people .
Fair do's but not sure how much quicker they could be expected to do it, the Oxford/AstraZeneca team hadn't applied for a licence by the end of Dec. There were concerns about its efficacy as well - some studies coming out around 60% iirc. Perhaps the reason for the delay in applying to EMA. Who should certainly be looking at some kind of emergency approval.
 

Oyibo

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This may ... just may .... turn into a defining point as to the future of the EU .... unless speedy action and some flair is demonstrated to resolve the problem the ordinary folk ... that is those who survive ... will not forget how they have been let down .

I think it is a profoundly defining moment - one in which the technocracy put politics over peoples' lives.

Sadly, IMO, there will too be many who will blindly follow 'the cause' of 'unity' rather than support speedy action such as approval of vaccines. As such, I don't think it will change the future of the EU much because the ideologues have already set their priorities.
 
Fair do's but not sure how much quicker they could be expected to do it, the Oxford/AstraZeneca team hadn't applied for a licence by the end of Dec. There were concerns about its efficacy as well - some studies coming out around 60% iirc. Perhaps the reason for the delay in applying to EMA. Who should certainly be looking at some kind of emergency approval.

Agreed .... my Bold ... regrettably in a pre Brexit move EMA HQ was relocated from the UK to Amsterdam and many staff declined to move so they may still be somewhat short staffed .
 
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