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What now for the EU ?

They did what ?

So HMG offers a debt free option and the RoI say No Thanks ? There must be more than that?



BoE noted it all seemed a bit silly HMG lending money to the EU to give to the ROI to pay back debts to UK banks the BOE was writing off the debts of. All a bit pass the non money parcel.
It was suggested that we just write off all their debts and call it good, in the grand scheme of things, it was pennies to HMG.
Now, you'd think this would have been snatched with both hands… a million Irish mortgage holders saved, along with a fair bit of the property market, but no.
You see that was the problem, a HMG bail out would have burned all the dodgy developers, crooks, politicians and their mates on the hook for Billions is dodgy deals, and we couldn't be having that now!
So ROI borrowed insane amounts of EU bailout money from German banks, massacred its little peoples mortgages, and all the crooks avoided a haircut. You see that's the beauty of EU bail out money, they don't ask where its going.

Moving onwards, see Greece saving its rich people, while driving its population into penury with German EU bail out money.

And onwards again to Italy
 
I like the sly little digs you try to get in. I'm sure it will be some comfort to the families of the dead that Ireland decided to with hold doses so they could ensure that people got 2 in the originally recommended time frame.

What is the republics target for vaccinations a week? At 35k it would take about 141 weeks to give everyone 1 dose

it isn’t a sly dig it’s fact

Target is all over 70s, all nursing home residents & staff and all front line health workers by end of March.

That’s 700,000 people btw which is 14% of the population.

it is significantly ramp up after that as supply increases
 
So ROI borrowed insane amounts of EU bailout money from German banks, massacred its little peoples mortgages, and all the crooks avoided a haircut. You see that's the beauty of EU bail out money, they don't ask where its going.


Although sometimes.......
 
So, does Ireland having the highest infection rate in the world constitute an “exceptional circumstance”?
And we are choosing not to as it is max possible protection to max number of people.

How long was the U.K. among the worst performing in that regard?

that is one week btw, we reached a peak on the 8th Jan and there have been significant reductions in the level in the last 3 days in a row (yesterday was less than half the number of new cases compared to that peak)
 
it isn’t a sly dig it’s fact

Target is all over 70s, all nursing home residents & staff and all front line health workers by end of March.

That’s 700,000 people btw which is 14% of the population.

it is significantly ramp up after that as supply increases

end of March?

all the staff and old people in my wife’s nursing home were fully vaccinated by the end of Week 1 Jan.
 

crow_bag

War Hero
And we are choosing not to as it is max possible protection to max number of people.

How long was the U.K. among the worst performing in that regard?

that is one week btw, we reached a peak on the 8th Jan and there have been significant reductions in the level in the last 3 days in a row (yesterday was less than half the number of new cases compared to that peak)
But surely it makes more sense to get 1.4 million people 70% protection than 700000 people 96% (or whatever Pfizer is after the second dose) and 7000000 having 0% protection.
 

crow_bag

War Hero
it isn’t a sly dig it’s fact

Target is all over 70s, all nursing home residents & staff and all front line health workers by end of March.

That’s 700,000 people btw which is 14% of the population.

it is significantly ramp up after that as supply increases
Of course it's a sly dig, you try and get one in every post.

It's a shame that the EU was a day late and dollar short on the vaccinations, and that the health service in RoI isn't the best, as of 12/01/2021 the UK had already given 428,238 people both doses.

We had also given a total of 2,639,309 first doses by the 12/01/2021.
 

Bardeyai

Old-Salt
Back in the 1980s in a dispute with us, the Malaysian government has a buy British last policy.

Time we adopted a buy from the EU last, and preferably not at all policy. They can go and you know what with themselves.
Things are rarely what they seem. Malaysia had Two buy British last campaigns. During the one in the mid'90's we were busy supplying them Hawk aircraft, building them frigates & stuff. And they came over to London and bought Lotus cars.
For giggles, Dr Mahathir also offered to supply a ruler when the Australian PM said he wished he had one to rap us over the knuckles.
Dr M - crazy guy; like Loco to keep us wondering what he would do next. Paul Keating, a dick. Who remembers him.
 

Truxx

LE
My initial gut reaction to giving Eire our vaccine is “feck ‘em”. They have spent the last few years trying their hardest to screw us over so I have little sympathy.

However, realpolitik and UK health should be a consideration. If, after the UK population has been vaccinated, we can get additional protection for the UK population by vaccinating the Irish, then it’s a legitimate use. Just stick the Union flag all over it though to remind them who it is helping them.

And if we can get political or financial advantage by donating spare vaccine to less fortunate countries, then let’s do so.
Lots of interesting discussion. We could bulldoze a million vials of the Oxford vaccination onto the Larne Ferry.

We could even decide to pay the £3 a pop up front for them as a gesture of goodwill.

But until and unless the EU EMA give it the thumbs up, and decide on the dose and timescale for follow ups, then all it can do is sit there taking up space.
 

Auld-Yin

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Lots of interesting discussion. We could bulldoze a million vials of the Oxford vaccination onto the Larne Ferry.

We could even decide to pay the £3 a pop up front for them as a gesture of goodwill.

But until and unless the EU EMA give it the thumbs up, and decide on the dose and timescale for follow ups, then all it can do is sit there taking up space.
It would be quicker shipping the RoI population to the UK for the vaccination. :)
 

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