What makes a modern hero?

Alsacien

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#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7171417.stm

Thought this was interesting - until the last paragraph...

"Now awards have gone to "ordinary" people. Edward Wilson was made MBE for three decades as a street sweeper in London's West End. Anne Milner earned the same honour for her work as a traffic warden in Cornwall. Dinner lady and school cleaner Dorothy Winner, a head teacher who had turned around a failing school, was knighted. "

FFS :x
 
#2
Being a cockney twat that can cook (alledgely) would do. The present Government has devalued many honours to the level of Blue Peter Badges.
 
#3
There are no such things anymore. That's an elitist comment and I, personally, am outraged.
 

Alsacien

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#4
smartascarrots said:
There are no such things anymore. That's an elitist comment and I, personally, am outraged.
You can say to your boy, "Look junior Carrots, when you grow up you can be a wheel-clamper - after 30 years of keeping your nose clean, you might get a knighthood."
"Wow Smartas senior, that is something to aspire to, and to be a person admired by all....."
 
#5
A football/rugby/cricket team at an international competition.

What about that bloke who pedalled around the world either by a small pedal boat or bike. What did he get in recognition because i'd say that must have been pretty epic.
 
#6
You have to be a bone chav and win big bruvver - or have shat loads of money, be famous for no apparent reason.... thick as mince, be no inspiration to the new generation of society. Give me just an hour with them on the drill square, I will give them a fecking sorting sniffling little cnuts!!!!!!!! I'd fragg them till their eyes bled!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 
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Alsacien said:
smartascarrots said:
There are no such things anymore. That's an elitist comment and I, personally, am outraged.
You can say to your boy, "Look junior Carrots, when you grow up you can be a wheel-clamper - after 30 years of keeping your nose clean, you might get a knighthood."
"Wow Smartas senior, that is something to aspire to, and to be a person admired by all....."
That's the dream, mate <sniff>... that's the dream... (stares mistily at horizon).
 
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bitterandtwisted said:
You have to be a bone chav and win big bruvver - or have shat loads of money, be famous for no apparent reason.... thick as mince, be no inspiration to the new generation of society. Give me just an hour with them on the drill square, I will give them a fecking sorting sniffling little cnuts!!!!!!!! I'd fragg them till their eyes bled!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
They'd just walk off, and if you lifted a finger you'd be sacked and imprisoned!
 
#9
Bad_Crow said:
bitterandtwisted said:
You have to be a bone chav and win big bruvver - or have shat loads of money, be famous for no apparent reason.... thick as mince, be no inspiration to the new generation of society. Give me just an hour with them on the drill square, I will give them a fecking sorting sniffling little cnuts!!!!!!!! I'd fragg them till their eyes bled!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
They'd just walk off, and if you lifted a finger you'd be sacked and imprisoned!
I think you've just pissed on his parade!
 
#11
Its a great shame though - now that would make good reality television celebrity chav lads army..... I'll volunteer for the RP Sgts job :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

 
#12
doesn't go like ..

MBE = My Bloody Effort
OBE = Other Buggers Effort
KCMG = Kindly Call Me God

I'm sure they're others ...
 
#13
LOL:

upper class men with stiff, and usually moustachioed, upper lips
A hero is someone who best articulates, ideally in a spectacular, photogenic and popular form, the core values of a particular society.

Which gives the British a problem (one much discussed on this forum): how to articulate those values, simply and clearly, in a multi-cultural society which, by definition, has no obvious single set of values?

I was struck following 9/11 by photos of Palestinian youths allegedly celebrating the OBL plane strikes. I say "allegedly" because I'm not 100% sure the spin put on the photos was genuine. But if the spin was genuine then OBL is a bona fide hero to segments of Palestinian society (according to my definition): OBL articulated, in a spectacular, photogenic and popular form, those values. Opinion polls in Afghanistan and Iraq support that claim.

When British society was dominated by the values of "upper class men with stiff, and usually moustachioed, upper lips" it was easy to create heroes. It's one reason the Queen had so much trouble after Diana died. Lady Di certainly was a hero to many people. But she had no moustache, and made a specialty of having a somewhat flexible upper lip, hence the Queen’s initial confusion.
 
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annakey said:
LOL:

upper class men with stiff, and usually moustachioed, upper lips
A hero is someone who best articulates, ideally in a spectacular, photogenic and popular form, the core values of a particular society.

Which gives the British a problem (one much discussed on this forum): how to articulate those values, simply and clearly, in a multi-cultural society which, by definition, has no obvious single set of values?

I was struck following 9/11 by photos of Palestinian youths allegedly celebrating the OBL plane strikes. I say "allegedly" because I'm not 100% sure the spin put on the photos was genuine. But if the spin was genuine then OBL is a bona fide hero to segments of Palestinian society (according to my definition): OBL articulated, in a spectacular, photogenic and popular form, those values. Opinion polls in Afghanistan and Iraq support that claim.

When British society was dominated by the values of "upper class men with stiff, and usually moustachioed, upper lips" it was easy to create heroes. It's one reason the Queen had so much trouble after Diana died. Lady Di certainly was a hero to many people. But she had no moustache, and made a specialty of having a somewhat flexible upper lip, hence the Queen’s initial confusion.
Does a beard count?
 

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Fanbasher said:
annakey said:
LOL:

upper class men with stiff, and usually moustachioed, upper lips
A hero is someone who best articulates, ideally in a spectacular, photogenic and popular form, the core values of a particular society.

Which gives the British a problem (one much discussed on this forum): how to articulate those values, simply and clearly, in a multi-cultural society which, by definition, has no obvious single set of values?

I was struck following 9/11 by photos of Palestinian youths allegedly celebrating the OBL plane strikes. I say "allegedly" because I'm not 100% sure the spin put on the photos was genuine. But if the spin was genuine then OBL is a bona fide hero to segments of Palestinian society (according to my definition): OBL articulated, in a spectacular, photogenic and popular form, those values. Opinion polls in Afghanistan and Iraq support that claim.

When British society was dominated by the values of "upper class men with stiff, and usually moustachioed, upper lips" it was easy to create heroes. It's one reason the Queen had so much trouble after Diana died. Lady Di certainly was a hero to many people. But she had no moustache, and made a specialty of having a somewhat flexible upper lip, hence the Queen’s initial confusion.
Does a beard count?
Yes. :lol:

I walked into a pub recently and found a (heavily bearded) pic of my girlfriend's grandfather on the wall. He took a small boat to Dunkirk, went in three times, and was blown (literally) out of his trousers by a Stuka. He was mentioned in dispatches. He later won medals as a lifeboat coxswain. I explained the connection to the barmaid and asked permission to take a photo. Not only did she say 'yes' but locals tried to buy me drinks just on the basis of my tenuous, non-blood relative connection. He got bugger-all from HMG in terms of gongs.

I honestly don't know what all the British heart-searching and lack of confidence is about. It’s ridiculous. Our history's stuffed with heroes going back to Magna Carta and beyond, many of whom are very ordinary people.

The first thing to put a stop to are automatic gongs for bigwigs. It’s disgusting and an insult that some time-serving civil servant, army boss or senior vicar should be honoured simply for not rocking the boat for fifty years.
 
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