What Kit did the Contractors Carry

#1
Following on from the very Informative 'What kit did the soldiers carry' thread I thought I would try and put a TELIC and HERRICK perspective on here from a Contractors point of view, It won't be popular with everyone but the thing to remember is that it was our previous Military Service that got us the gig in the first place.

My first gig, ArmorGroup, teaching the Iraqi Police. Kit issue? The cheapest, nastiest boots available and soon replaced with Lowa or similar. Trousers, khaki and supplied by ourselves. Navy Blue tee shirts with 'Police' and, in Arabic, 'Shurti Ayraqi' (Iraqi Police) sown on to them. Body armour was some 40ib of South African wonderment as was the helmet. The Tac Vest was risible (I've had this conversation with @Cutaway ) which tended to fall apart if you looked at it sternly. PRR to keep in touch with the escorts, rations, water, escape map, first aid kit and the usual bollocks tucked away in the tac vest which also held 120 rounds of 5.56mm. The belt (in my case) held 30 rounds of 9mm (15 in the weapon) and 15 in a pouch.

Weapons wise, it was either the Sig 552 Commando or the M21SB, a Serbian AK Derivative chambered for 5.56 (I chose the M21 preferring the accuracy of a longer barrel) and either the Glock 17 or 19. Having hands like a tart I chose the 19.

We were driving Grade 6 armoured Toyota Landcruisers which had 'grab packs' of an additional 300 5.56 per man and what were referred to in those days as 'giving sets' for first aid.

To cap it all off, when we were out and about 'doing our thang' we had a multiple from B Company, 2 PARA looking after our sorry arses.

Happy ******* days!!!
 
#2
Got there in May 03 as Telic 1 was winding down
First issue was G3 with a few mags and the odd AK.
No secondary weapon and no armoured vehicles either, just soft-skin.
No body-armour to be seen.
Changed to another coy that were paying more in July and issued with AK and Tariq for secondary.
Still no armoured vehicles but we used US issue CBA.
Only a few bothered to wear it and just winged it.
Comany's "Human-Rights committee" decided that it was a contravention of some right or other and issued us all with Paki MP5's and anybody caught with anything else would be sacked..
That rule lasted till the 1st contact where we were outgunned massively and the client kicked up a shit-storm as the provider were making a small-fortune out of them every week.
Back on the AKs after that even though the price had been inflated from $25 for a system with 4 mags to $300+ for the same.
Finished that contract with all pax accounted for somehow.
Blackwater took over that contract back in 03/04 and most of you will know what happened to them doing the same as we did.
My company did nothing different from BW but we were just really, really lucky for that 8mths.
They were just really unlucky and didn't know the routes or ground and were caught short.

Back in 04/04 onto HMG contract.
No expense spared... brand-new armoured Land Cruisers but still AK and Brownings.
After a few months got 551/552 and G17's.

Carried "Stars and stripes" flag, bandolier of 200rds, 8 mags and 3 for secondary system.
Israeli FFDs, QuikClot, FireFly and 50g of baccy in chest-rig.

The daily rate and being able to pay my mortgage off made 2 yrs of being stressed worth-while.
The game has since changed with all this SIA shite and I wouldn't do it now if the chance came up.
The market is heavily flooded and the daily rate is embarrassingly bad.
 

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#3
We wore fishing vests.

Beat that.


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#4
Afghan point of view, and where i am, as its getting more and more US you see a lot of Triple Canopy or AEGIS hanging on to whatever contracts are available. US Expat gate guards on airfield access gates with Ugandan nationals in the towers......safe as houses!!!
 
#5
Baggers, July 03.
These days blokes wear a lot more kit just around camp.
The ubiquitous fishing vest on show.
MP5, soft-skin and not a uniform or CBA anywhere in-sight
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#6
A big chip on their shoulder.
 
#8
Contractors building MPA off their heads on smack strolled into minefields to equip themselves with dumped argentine weapons and ammo. They then went into the hills and blatted away at each other...
Apparently gimpy was the weapon of choice.
 
#9
If that even happened it's a bit different from what this thread is getting at.
Phots or it never happened.
 
#10
I think the OP was going on about PSD type Contractors and not Turners Plumbers and Brickies in the Falklands!
 
#11
How did (if they did at all) contractors tie in with coalition forces when doing road moves etc?

I seem to remember the yank QRF getting called out to a couple of instances involving private firms and there were plenty of contractors always kicking about the yank camp at the Safwan border crossing.
 
#12
Personally, we never tied in with the US forces as we didn't have the means or the compulsion.
The reason I carried a US flag was, in the early days, quite a few of the septics couldn't recognise the Union flag.
Passing convoys was always a dangerous venture and more close-calls came from friendly C/S than from anything remotely dark-skinned or Iraqi.

2 white blokes driving a brand new SUV while flashing an American flag got us through 8/10 but sometimes we had the might of a .50 burst over our heads.
At Al Hillah the Poles fired a 23mm over us as they had a 23mm x 2 on the front gate.
Those weren't the best days of my life.


Wherever there were US/UK (eventually coalition) camps there there were multi-national companies/ clients hence always contractors.
The USAID Basrah contract was the best as they were just over the road from the Bas-Bar and the 2 can rule was never enforced as far as I was aware.
The US had completely dry camps (officially) but you could pick up a bottle of Bourbon from the higher-ups if you gave them 30mins on your SATphone.....The client paid the phone bill anyhow not us.

After 6mths an off-license opened up in the GZ. I believe it was blown up back in 2005(?).
As long as you had the green you could buy anything you liked.
Lots of guys with histories of booze-abuse in the Forces had a great time.

I used to prefer being out and about on the ground as it made my time in-country go quicker.
 
#13
I was only in Iraq in 2005 for a few months working on a UK contract. First cpl months was the end of an existing contract with a US constr coy working for their Corps of Eng & with us faffing about on US sites a lot of the time was great for blagging scoff & gucci stuff off their blokes. Body armour was pretty much willy nilly & i used my own Warrior system I had previously. Gatts were AK's to start with, then on a new contract with same coy we got 416's which were fantastic tbh. Sidearms were glock17s which were a big improvement on the brownings we were told we would get - i reckon as a piss take by the UK lads back here in blighty.
Vehicles were a mix - we did a lot of stuff in mufti so we'd don the dish dash & head cloths, folding ak's on the lap or in the footwells & use two souped up civvy cars that the coy had taken into Kuwait for some tinkering. Looking shagged out & as per the local stuff we never really had a problem. Decent comms & two vehicles up in a loose convoy we would be able to move quite freely. Always preferred that to the balls to the wall overt stuff in Pajero's that were rarely armoured.
Overt work we'd have a PKM in the back of the rear vehicle on a heath robinson bungee arrangement until we got a local to fab us a pintol mount tripod set up. As i recal things were always pretty makeshift & make do at times.
 
#14
I was only in Iraq in 2005 for a few months working on a UK contract. First cpl months was the end of an existing contract with a US constr coy working for their Corps of Eng & with us faffing about on US sites a lot of the time was great for blagging scoff & gucci stuff off their blokes. Body armour was pretty much willy nilly & i used my own Warrior system I had previously. Gatts were AK's to start with, then on a new contract with same coy we got 416's which were fantastic tbh. Sidearms were glock17s which were a big improvement on the brownings we were told we would get - i reckon as a piss take by the UK lads back here in blighty.
Vehicles were a mix - we did a lot of stuff in mufti so we'd don the dish dash & head cloths, folding ak's on the lap or in the footwells & use two souped up civvy cars that the coy had taken into Kuwait for some tinkering. Looking shagged out & as per the local stuff we never really had a problem. Decent comms & two vehicles up in a loose convoy we would be able to move quite freely. Always preferred that to the balls to the wall overt stuff in Pajero's that were rarely armoured.
Overt work we'd have a PKM in the back of the rear vehicle on a heath robinson bungee arrangement until we got a local to fab us a pintol mount tripod set up. As i recal things were always pretty makeshift & make do at times.
i was at the yank camp at Safwan for a wee while doing comms for the log convoys and remember seeing a few instances of this kicking about.

anyone remember a security firm who seemed to only hired ex-gurkhas? it was the first time i'd seen a fat one.
 
#15
Global used all Gurkhas for their guard force at the US embo in Baggers.
Never saw any out on the ground though.
There was a company that had the gig to move all the new money around the country back in 06-07(?), think they used Fijians and Gurkhas.
 
#17
Global used all Gurkhas for their guard force at the US embo in Baggers.
Never saw any out on the ground though.
There was a company that had the gig to move all the new money around the country back in 06-07(?), think they used Fijians and Gurkhas.
this was down south sometime in 2006. they were all cutting about in matching blue body armour and helmets (similar to the coal scuttle shape the iraqis used in green) with AK's. i remember them from the yank camp but also passed them parked up at the side of the road somewhere off tampa a couple of times.

matching bellies as well
 
#18
EI use Nepalese ex soldiers, not Gurkhas. And were still using them up until last year and maybe still now up in Kabul.
 

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