What is the Point of the Sgts Mess?

#1
Just some quick questions to one and all....


What is the point of the Sgt's Mess?...

What does it achieve?

What does it do?

How does it help us to do our Job?


Why does it cost so much?


What is the point of it??


In the modern day of Pay as you Dine, it is a contributing factor of why the food is so bad....

so what is the point anyone?
 
#2
whogivesatoss said:
Just some quick questions to one and all....


What is the point of the Sgt's Mess?...

What does it achieve?

What does it do?

How does it help us to do our Job?


Why does it cost so much?


What is the point of it??


In the modern day of Pay as you Dine, it is a contributing factor of why the food is so bad....

so what is the point anyone?
If you need to ask, there is no need to tell.

PS Are you a senior? Because asking 'whats the point' makes me doubt you are.


PPS. Having just looked through your posts, you appear to be a BAT. That may explain it. If you dont like being in one of the most exclusive 'clubs' in the world, suggest you revert back to full screw.
 

adyf

Old-Salt
#3
These "what's the point" type threads are becoming a little tedious now. What's the point of you being in the fcuking Army if all you do is question what it's about?

Why don't you feck off to civvie street you idiot!
 

adyf

Old-Salt
#6
Spell perhaps? Clearly you're not an Officer then are you? ;)
 
#8
and as said another pointless question and replies from most. the mess is the mess, if you do not want to partake do not accept promotion. and for officers and juniors you only get in when invited, grammar and spelling is not a requirement, but being an officer, i hope you can lead men, rather than spending time picking up spelling mistakes.
 
#9
I just gained promotion to Sgt, and the one place I want to be is in the Sgt's mess its what I have aimed for for the past twelve years, like you said its the most exclusive club in the world. But I must admit I am dreading my first visit, the unknown I guess.
 
#10
Point to note is that the Sergeant Mess was a spin off of the Officers Messes which existed first, secondly dont be suckered in by that the most exclusive club in the world dribble, approximetly 35000 people are members of a Sgts Mess....hardly exclusive!!
Its a great facility and a proud establishment but I doubt you show the Officers how to do it they are more than happy in thier respective mess where Mrs wife of generally wont spew diamond white and black down herself whilst heckling during the speeches.
 
#11
There is a very strong vibes that REME will be the first Corps to do away with the Sgts Mess under the recent "Lean and Rebalancing" policy.


Any futher news out there from any REME bods ?
 
#13
As a retired Officer I have to say that any young Grad could join our mess. However as a SNCO promotion to the mess was on merit and quite exclusive. I always counselled the advice of my SNCOs and realised that they were @ the coalface and gave them the respect they deserved. I learnt an awful lot from them. British SNCOs are the best and the backbone of our Army.
 
#14
paragorge said:
Point to note is that the Sergeant Mess was a spin off of the Officers Messes which existed first, secondly dont be suckered in by that the most exclusive club in the world dribble, approximetly 35000 people are members of a Sgts Mess....hardly exclusive!!Its a great facility and a proud establishment but I doubt you show the Officers how to do it they are more than happy in thier respective mess where Mrs wife of generally wont spew diamond white and black down herself whilst heckling during the speeches.
Exclusiveness is not judged solely on size, exclusive as in all members are or have been SNCO/WO and worked long and hard to be privileged members.

Officers Mess membership includes, Officers (obviously), teachers, doctors, WRVS, UKBC (in Germany) and uncle Tom Cobbly and all, "hardly exclusive" (regardless of size of membership)

With regard to “what’s the point”, as stated, if you can’t see the point, perhaps you’re not ready for the rank or (probably the thing that drives you) the pay.

Being a soldier is not 0800 – 1700 and don’t bother me at home, it’s a way of life, you are the custodian of young men/women’s lives and you have a full time responsibility. The mess is a place where you can relax, socialise, gain advice, and do business. It is an integral part to the above way of life.

There I go again on another old fashioned rant, and relax.
 
#15
Oh and another thing (rant obviously not quite over) an ex SNCO/WO can go on to be a member of the Officers mess (LE, civil post), I do not believe an Officer can become a member of a Sgts mess, Which is the more exclusive?
 
#16
CAARPS said:
Oh and another thing (rant obviously not quite over) an ex SNCO/WO can go on to be a member of the Officers mess (LE, civil post), I do not believe an Officer can become a member of a Sgts mess, Which is the more exclusive?
Can't MGS apply to become Sgt's Mess members?
 
#17
amazing__lobster said:
CAARPS said:
Oh and another thing (rant obviously not quite over) an ex SNCO/WO can go on to be a member of the Officers mess (LE, civil post), I do not believe an Officer can become a member of a Sgts mess, Which is the more exclusive?
Can't MGS apply to become Sgt's Mess members?
Service with the MPGS gives the soldier a recognised career. Units are formed as Defence Platoons under the command of the Unit’s Commanding Officer for the site to which they are deployed. There is a structured rank system within each MPGS unit offering the opportunity for promotion up to Senior NCO and Warrant Officer Rank, with the possibility for site transfer, where appropriate, on promotion. Promotion is based on performance throughout the tour of duty in the MPGS.

In summary, MPGS soldiers have all the advantages of being in the Army, with comradeship and security of employment. Additionally, they have these in a region of their choice, with regular hours of work and without the risk of being posted away at short notice. They retain all the opportunities of Service life, including the sport, the adventure training, the potential for educational development, while knowing they are carrying out essential tasks.

Lifted from here Yes if they are a SNCO or WO
 
#18
CAARPS said:
Oh and another thing (rant obviously not quite over) an ex SNCO/WO can go on to be a member of the Officers mess (LE, civil post), I do not believe an Officer can become a member of a Sgts mess, Which is the more exclusive?
Umm, well most people move on to being LE/Civi therfore they are hardly going to want to go back to the Sgts Mess!!, please take time to get beong the first few words of my post and dont look at it as a dig
 
#19
paragorge said:
Point to note is that the Sergeant Mess was a spin off of the Officers Messes which existed first, secondly dont be suckered in by that the most exclusive club in the world dribble, approximetly 35000 people are members of a Sgts Mess....hardly exclusive!!
Its a great facility and a proud establishment but I doubt you show the Officers how to do it they are more than happy in thier respective mess where Mrs wife of generally wont spew diamond white and black down herself whilst heckling during the speeches.
No argument about the first point, however, it’s hard to think that the second statement is anything other than a dig. Although I have been known to be hypersensitive sometimes. :D :D
 
#20
Yes ex Sgts/WO's can join the Officers mess but they could also join the Sgts mess. They do so as civilians, not as ex rankers so realistically both messes offer the same associate membership.
 

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