What is the ARRSERS definition of a Civvy?

#1
When I was a squaddie, anything outside of HM Forces was a civvy, and was of course treated with contempt they so richly deserved. As a serving member of HM Constabulary, I now regard anyone outside of HM Forces and ,er, Police, Fire Brigade and Ambo as civvies.

Prison Officer? Civvy. St John? Civvy. Special? Difficult.....but ultimately not a civvy. Police Staff Worker? Civvy. TA.....? Answers on a postcard.

The flipside is, most if not all of the above, would never refer to themselves as a civvy. And we haven't even got to the 'wife/husband of' scenario yet. Civvies in my book. My wife is a recruitment consultant. As such, I delight in telling her to 'Zip it Civvy'. However, when my brother was in the army and I spoke to him, he delighted in referring to me as a 'stinking civvy'.

So, gentleman, the ARRSERS legal definition please. Helmet and kevlar stabby on and standing by... :wink:
 
#2
Can I add another aspect?

Is being a civvie a state of mind also? (athough in that vein, a civvie with a military mind is a walt)

Hmmm.
 

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#3
Someone who is in the RAF!
 
#5
To keep it simple I reckon a civvy is someone who has never served in the Forces. The Polizei et al are all civvies as well!
 
#6
jack-daniels said:
To keep it simple I reckon a civvy is someone who has never served in the Forces. The Polizei et al are all civvies as well!
Does that make me one, as I have served in the green, but now serve in the blue. I'm confused... :wink:
 
#7
marco_poloroid said:
jack-daniels said:
To keep it simple I reckon a civvy is someone who has never served in the Forces. The Polizei et al are all civvies as well!
Does that make me one, as I have served in the green, but now serve in the blue. I'm confused... :wink:
Don't be silly of course not but you should take great delight in telling the rest of your blue brethren that they are!

According to my Collins Concise Dictionary their definition of a civilian is:

A person whose occupation is civil or non military.
 
#10
peem said:
A civvy is a simple machine that converts beer into urine!!
How is that different from the average soldier. :D Retry!
 
#13
A slightly different angle.

If you have ever had to change into 'civvies' out of working clothes then you are by definition not a civvy.
 
#14
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
If you have ever had to change into 'civvies' out of working clothes then you are by definition not a civvy.
Does this include prostitutes?

Anyway, you're not allowed to shoot enemy coppers, according to Mr MATTS, so they/original poster are civvies.
 
#15
I find it interesting that coppers don't consider themselves to be civvies. After all, aren't they a part of the Civil Service? :roll:

They are THE kings of civvies imho. :wink:
 
#16
marco_poloroid said:
jack-daniels said:
To keep it simple I reckon a civvy is someone who has never served in the Forces. The Polizei et al are all civvies as well!
Does that make me one, as I have served in the green, but now serve in the blue. I'm confused... :wink:
What does that make you? Nostalgic, probably...
 
#19
Civilian (n).
1. A person following the pursuits of civil life, especially one who is not an active member of the military, the police, or a belligerent group (?? sic).
2. A person who does not belong to a particular group or engage in a particular activity.
3. A specialist in Roman or civil law.
adj.
Of or relating to civilians or civil life; nonmilitary: civilian clothes; a civilian career.

[Middle English, civil law judge, from Old French civilien, from civil, civil, from Latin cīvīlis. See civil.]

Sorted! I am not a specialist in Roman Law and I am a member of this ARRSE thread. Ergo... I am NOT a civvy!

Right .. where's my gun and uniform?!
 

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