WHAT IS TAFF 1 OR TAFF 2?

#1
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hi could you tell me what is taff 1 or taff 2?
i am going up to grantham for a selection w/e on 29th september.
completely in dark what to expect.
any one help?
thanks :lick: :lick: :*
 

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Sexbomb, if thats what you look like I think you may want to see the MO about that jaundice, and FYI, QR's say something about dyed hair being similar to natural colour. I mean blue hair? I ask you, whats the world coming to?

PS: Good luck ;)
 
#5
:party: :flower:

I just hope they have a sense of humour and the sight of me running about in shorts is a sight for any sore eyes!!!
All my work mates are asking for photos!!!!hehehhehhehehhehhehhe
:safe:
thanks for reading it
x
 
#6
TA_sig said:
I created this wonderful wiki entry all about the initial training:
http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/TA_Phase1_Training

Ok it's a bit crap, but reflects the most up to date internet publication on it all.
No, its's not crap, it's a great start - if anyone disagrees with what you have written they can change it, it's the wiki - and I notice no-one has...

msr
 

Sixty

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#7
MSR, if you don't mind I'll have a bit of a minor edit tomorrow? Just a slight wording change, no change to info included.
 
#8
Go nuts SFD.

An amusing scenario I can forsee is clued up recruit rocking up to ATR Somethingorother and Cpl BigHairyNasty trashes their locker (happened to us, was amusing really) for not having starched their combat trouser creases (not for that reason). Now they don't want to undermine his authority and 'gob off' that it's against the published rules/guidelines, what do they do?

When I reported to ATR something three odd years ago I had been given JI's and the instructions 'Don't fail'. I had no idea what the rules of play were, or what to do if things went udders vertical. As usual section comd is boss and fortunately mine was.. ok. Unfortunately a bloke I knew was left on show parade in the rain for 3 hours when he had to prep for an exercise, and it turned out he was the wrong soldier. All that happened was an 'ahh.. umm. sorry about that by the duty staff' and it was swept away. He didn't know who to go to in order to raise complaint, and said nothing as thought he'd be seen as causing trouble.

Recruits that I've personally known going through CMS(R) TA generally just get on and deal with whatever is thrown their way. They don't want to cause a scene, or get RTU'd and so just stag on. If something comes up it's perhaps mentioned to CoC back home but often they wouldn't know that the instructors were acting outside of published guidelines. End of the day it lowers their opinion of the the Regs. It did me, and it did others.

Should there be a briefing for recruits heading off to CMS(R)? This is what to expect, what you should learn, how to behave, what to do if things go tits up. Does your recruit training cell run one?
 

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#9
TA_sig,

Purely out of curiosity, did you go to Pirbright? I ask because there were many complaints from my previous unit about the half-hearted and sub-standard ways.
 
#11
Good luck all....I'm up in Wrexham on 6th October!

What I've been told is TAFF1 is a basic look into Army life. There is a 1.5 mile run to be completed in 13mins or less. Also, there is a memory retention test.

Basically they give a lesson on a piece o equipment, the L2 Grenade was mentioned, and then there is a test afterwards.

Thats as much as I know.
 
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RP578 said:
TA_sig,

Purely out of curiosity, did you go to Pirbright? I ask because there were many complaints from my previous unit about the half-hearted and sub-standard ways.
No I was at a different one, but there are complaints across the board. That is not to say there are complaints about them all, all the time, just that they all seem to make mistakes now and again.
 
#13
TAFS TA Foundation Scheme 1 very basic army stuff, how to iron & wear uniform, basic foot drill, rank structure etc., done at unit level.
2 More detailed drill, values & standards, where the Army is based, Arms & sevices, more PT(timed run) normally run at RTCs. Saying that all change back to the old system, which Idon't quite know off the top of my head.
 

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#14
I’ve had a couple of requests for this via PM. Since it’s not exactly classified, I’ll post here as well. Details refer to RLC (specialist/nationally recruited weekends at PWOG Bks-Grantham and was for a weekend 28th-31st July)

Be aware that this overview deals with the combined TAFS part 1 & 2



Friday
1800-2200 Hrs Arrival & reception.
2200 Hrs Opening address (probably Capt L*****t)

Saturday
0645 Breakfast
0730 Entrance Test (TSG)
0845 Kit issue
1000 RLC careers presentation
1030 Pay and allowances
1100 Drill
1200 Equal opportunities
1235 Lunch
1315 Drill
1430 Rank and insignia
1500 Drill
1600 British Army areas of deployment
1645 Law of Armed Conflict
1715 Evening meal
1815 Fieldcraft
1910 Physical Training
2015 Admin


Sunday
0645 Breakfast
0715 Drill
0815 ‘Users and losers’ video
0850 ‘Your health at risk’ video
0930 Arms and services presentation
1000 NAAFI break
1030 Security (PERSEC & OPSEC)
1100 Equal opportunities part 2
1145 Drill
1230 Lunch
1315 Personal trade interviews
1330 DCCT (Dismounted Close Combat Trainer)
1615 24hr clock and phonetic alphabet
1715 Evening meal
1815 Admin


Monday
0645 Breakfast
0730 Equal opportunities and diversity 3
0815 AGAI 67
0900 Fieldcraft (Train Green video)
0930 ‘Training to be the best’ video
1000 Personal Fitness Test
1115 Admin
1130 Trade interviews (if needed)
1230 Closing notes
1300 Lunch


Editted for mong speelling :oops:
 
#15
Some one at your unit must have gone through this with you or haven't we been paying attention to lectures and the like !!
 
#16
Sixtyfootdoll said:
Be aware that this overview deals with the combined TAFS part 1 & 2
That timetable is truely shocking, I remember when we trained to be soldiers not experts at 'duty of care'. '24 hour clock and phonetic alphabet' FFS!
 

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LeBuzzer said:
Sixtyfootdoll said:
Be aware that this overview deals with the combined TAFS part 1 & 2
That timetable is truely shocking, I remember when we trained to be soldiers not experts at 'duty of care'. '24 hour clock and phonetic alphabet' FFS!

I know mate. It has to aim at the lowest common denominator unfortunately though. P1ss easy to us but not everyone's clued up on both.

I echo the FFS as well :D
 
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Sixtyfootdoll said:
LeBuzzer said:
Sixtyfootdoll said:
Be aware that this overview deals with the combined TAFS part 1 & 2
That timetable is truely shocking, I remember when we trained to be soldiers not experts at 'duty of care'. '24 hour clock and phonetic alphabet' FFS!

I know mate. It has to aim at the lowest common denominator unfortunately though. P1ss easy to us but not everyone's clued up on both.

I echo the FFS as well :D
You'd be surprised at how much some people have to learn compared to others, actually SFD probably wouldn't. Heck at least there around 2 1/2 hours of drill to be done - 1..2,3... umm?

Being soldiers comes later on anyway, sometime around phase2 or some such... Maybe even later for some :wink:

Out of interest how much exposure to arms will the recruits get over TAF's? We got on an indoor 2x2 range, with anchient contraptions, but that was it. Is it a case of DCCT to give some interest, or cheat a bit and clue them up on WHT etc before their 2 weeks of fun?
 
#20
TA_sig said:
Being soldiers comes later on anyway, sometime around phase2 or some such... Maybe even later for some :wink:
No it should start on day 1, the only similar to my first weekend and this, is the phys and the drill. I might be wrong but I'm sure I could pass all my bounty tests before I went on my recruits cadre, 4 weekends taught a lot (I'll admit my drills got a lot better on the course).

Just seems the news guys are getting to the completed 4 weekend level but a class 1 whingers. Have a field firing weekend coming up, I think my PSI is nuts to contemplate it....
 

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