What is, or is not, current affairs? Moderation?

[Resasi]

Inadequate sentancing isn't a CA topic and you, with your track record, would not have raised a peep had the chap been white and there can be no denial of that. Your agenda is laughably obvious.

COVID lockdown, not current affairs?

Illegal parties during lockdown not current affairs?

Soft sentencing not current affairs?

BLM issues not current affairs?

White, Black, Purple... rioting and the injuries to police, and their consequences, have been a long time concern in my ‘agenda’ on this Forum with a son as a former law enforcement officer.

COVID is in the forefront of current affairs

Hardly laughable, and, your sense of humour/agenda is decidedly suspect.

 

[old_n_fat]

Inadequate sentancing isn't a CA topic and you, with your track record, would not have raised a peep had the chap been white and there can be no denial of that. Your agenda is laughably obvious.

COVID lockdown, not current affairs?

Illegal parties during lockdown not current affairs?

Soft sentancing not current affairs?

BLM issues not current affairs?

White, Black, Purple... rioting and the injuries to police, and their consequences, have been a long time concern in my ‘agenda’ on this Forum with a sone as a former law enforcement officer.

COVID is in the forefront of current affairs

Hardly laughable, and, your sense of humour/agenda is decidedly suspect.

Feel better now?

 

[Resasi]

Simple response.

 

[kelvin_273]

Does anybody feel like pointing out that it's sentencing?

 

[Ayatollah]

I think you have to split the answer into three parts.
Worldwide Nationwide and Local.
An act of terrorism or war would be a world event and deserve a position under current affairs, as would an electrical blackout in the UK or a town without water.
Whereas an RTA would not be because it affects individuals. although it could be changed depending on where the RTA was located IE a Motorway.

 

[lokiuk]

What about questioning the existence of tarty alien beings made of electricity that start having affairs, would that count?

 

[dingerr]

The solution is quite simple. ARRSE is not your train set, do as you’re told.

 

[Provost]

"What is, or is not, current affairs?" ​

This thread is not.

Happy to help.

 

[AlienFTM]

What about questioning the existence of tarty alien beings made of electricity that start having affairs, would that count?

Who are you calling a tart, bitch?

 

[Bad CO]

Being an ARRSE moderator is the kind of job where it is impossible to keep everyone happy all the time. All I'd say is please give them your support as they try to do the best that they can!

 

[Joshua Slocum]

I think that chopping the BLM thread was a wise move, they have some very IT and Media savvy folk amongst them, looking out for anything negative said about the group
they would use it as a weapon to extend their actions, perhaps ignoring them and they will follow the Shaker religion and simply fade away

 

[loofkar]

I think that chopping the BLM thread was a wise move, they have some very IT and Media savvy folk amongst them, looking out for anything negative said about the group
they would use it as a weapon to extend their actions, perhaps ignoring them and they will follow the Shaker religion and simply fade away

But the Shakers faded away because they practised celibacy

 

[Resasi]

So in other words BLM is an issue in this Forum...and does dictate what can and can not be discussed.

"What is, or is not, current affairs?" ​

This thread is not.

Happy to help.

Every single point raised was, and is, a current issue!

So, perhaps, not much help.

The solution is quite simple. ARRSE is not your train set, do as you’re told.

It is a private train set, understood, but... with this... demonstrating the power of ‘woke’?

Being an ARRSE moderator is the kind of job where it is impossible to keep everyone happy all the time. All I'd say is please give them your support as they try to do the best that they can!

Being an ARSE moderator certainly calls for fine judgement...and as you imply, not an easy one. I also am aware of the sensitivity, by your involvement. They do deserve support, and perhaps, occasionally questioned?

But, hopefully this site, is supposedly representative of our society, one that does believe in, hopefully ‘free’ speech. A site supposedly allows reasonable debate, perhaps even to question when the pendulum of opinion has begun to swing perhaps a little too far from common sense.

If that post crossed the lines allowed by law, then it is prosecutable. If not, then why the reaction?

The post expressed a sentiment that has been freely discussed at length in the past. If not acceptable now, it would seem then a change has occurred.

A change that is a matter of concern, about how the actions of a minority in present society, is effecting a change out of all proportion to what, up till now has recorded a past that reflected the times in which it happened.

A change that perhaps does not reflect entirely fairly upon the necessary changes that have occurred, and seems, does happen, when a pendulum has swung past a reasonably correct/sensible course?

 

[Joshua Slocum]

But the Shakers faded away because they practised celibacy

Aye
A slight joke at the blms expense

 

[Joshua Slocum]

So in other words BLM is an issue in this Forum...and does dictate what can and can not be discussed.




Every single point raised was, and is, a current issue!

So, perhaps, not much help.


It is a private train set, understood, but... with this... demonstrating the power of ‘woke’?

Being an ARSE moderator certainly calls for fine judgement...and as you imply, not an easy one. I also am aware of the sensitivity, by your involvement. They do deserve support, and perhaps, occasionally questioned?

But, hopefully this site, is supposedly representative of our society, one that does believe in, hopefully ‘free’ speech. A site supposedly allows reasonable debate, perhaps even to question when the pendulum of opinion has begun to swing perhaps a little too far from common sense.

If that post crossed the lines allowed by law, then it is prosecutable. If not, then why the reaction?

The post expressed a sentiment that has been freely discussed at length in the past. If not acceptable now, it would seem then a change has occurred.

A change that is a matter of concern, about how the actions of a minority in present society, is effecting a change out of all proportion to what, up till now has recorded a past that reflected the times in which it happened.

A change that perhaps does not reflect entirely fairly upon the necessary changes that have occurred, and seems, does happen, when a pendulum has swung past a reasonably correct/sensible course?

The problem with organisations like the blm, is that they evolve, mutate, and constantly adapt to ensure they are in the mainstream press, they receive substantial financial backing from many sources, all of them having different interests at heart, eventually they will evolve into different cells, but all paying homage to the mother organisation
Lots of stupid, violent, and idealistic young people will find their niche in that structure, but will not realise how they are being used, and how easily they will be sacrificed, Oxford has some very clever, idealistic young people, with access to knowledge, an I.T. Base and a ready audience of bored young people
The danger is in them deciding to become a quasi military organisation and getting supporters to rally to the cause
At present with so many under lock down, young sometimes clever but immature minds are being fed with hatred, the lack of a normal social life, interaction with other people, that would act as a safety valve makes it worse
Hopefully slasha of the Oxford peoples racist front will get her arse handed to her on a plate, when she full of her own self emportance and social empowerment gets her arse handed to her on a plate, ideally in a court of law
Meanwhile she would do well to look carefully at those surrounding her, and wonder which one is the snake in the grass looking to steal her crown

 

[The_Duke]

So in other words BLM is an issue in this Forum...and does dictate what can and can not be discussed.




Every single point raised was, and is, a current issue!

So, perhaps, not much help.


It is a private train set, understood, but... with this... demonstrating the power of ‘woke’?

Being an ARSE moderator certainly calls for fine judgement...and as you imply, not an easy one. I also am aware of the sensitivity, by your involvement. They do deserve support, and perhaps, occasionally questioned?

But, hopefully this site, is supposedly representative of our society, one that does believe in, hopefully ‘free’ speech. A site supposedly allows reasonable debate, perhaps even to question when the pendulum of opinion has begun to swing perhaps a little too far from common sense.

If that post crossed the lines allowed by law, then it is prosecutable. If not, then why the reaction?

The post expressed a sentiment that has been freely discussed at length in the past. If not acceptable now, it would seem then a change has occurred.

A change that is a matter of concern, about how the actions of a minority in present society, is effecting a change out of all proportion to what, up till now has recorded a past that reflected the times in which it happened.

A change that perhaps does not reflect entirely fairly upon the necessary changes that have occurred, and seems, does happen, when a pendulum has swung past a reasonably correct/sensible course?

BLM doesn't dictate what can or cannot be said on this site and is a perfectly sensible topic for discussion.

Unfortunately, there is a small but voluble proportion of site users who are racist, and unable to conduct any sort of conversation involving matters of race without reverting to type. It is not acceptable to refer to every single person with non-white skin as "vile scum", "filth", "untermensch" or to insist that they are all "sent back to the third world shithole that they came from". You are free to think what you want, but if you want to use the site you must follow site rules. If you want absolute freedom to post whatever you want in whatever words you choose, set up your own site with your names associated with it.

Site users reap what they sow. Keep your racist beliefs to yourself and the threads tick on and the users keep posting. Post your racist beliefs in a way which would clearly cause trouble for the site and site owners if taken and shared in the wider media and the threads get closed down and posters ROPd.

Ball is in your (collective) court.

 

[Provost]

Every single point raised was, and is, a current issue!

So, perhaps, not much help.

Perhaps the thread having been moved to 'Site Issues' has helped clear up the point.

 

[Old Stab]

BLM doesn't dictate what can or cannot be said on this site and is a perfectly sensible topic for discussion.

Unfortunately, there is a small but voluble proportion of site users who are racist, and unable to conduct any sort of conversation involving matters of race without reverting to type. It is not acceptable to refer to every single person on non-white skin as "vile scum", "filth", "untermensch" or to insist that they are all "sent back to the third world shithole that they came from". You are free to think what you want, but if you want to use the site you must follow site rules. If you want absolute freedom to post whatever you want in whatever words you choose, set up your own site with you names associated with it.

Site users reap what they sow. Keep your racist beliefs to yourself and the threads tick on and the users keep posting. Post your racist beliefs in a way which would clearly cause trouble for the site and site owners if taken and shared in the wider media and the threads get closed down and posters ROPd.

Ball is in your (collective) court.

This.
We know that the MSM look at this site and brand us as XRW, racist squaddies etc etc. Ultimately the content posted on this site is the responsibility of the Co's and if organisations like BLM get a flea in their ear and make complaints about racism etc etc its the CO's that carry the can.

Which is why the Moderators jump all over anything that can be viewed as racist, homophobic etc etc.. Arrse is a British Army website populated by British Soldiers in the eyes of the media.
Just because a few are retired, ex TA, cadets, the media look and think "Its Green, its got a gun, it's a Tank" therefore it's the Army.

Let's not give them the bullets to fire at us eh.

 

[Arte_et_Marte]

So in other words BLM is an issue in this Forum...and does dictate what can and can not be discussed.




Every single point raised was, and is, a current issue!

So, perhaps, not much help.


It is a private train set, understood, but... with this... demonstrating the power of ‘woke’?

Being an ARSE moderator certainly calls for fine judgement...and as you imply, not an easy one. I also am aware of the sensitivity, by your involvement. They do deserve support, and perhaps, occasionally questioned?

But, hopefully this site, is supposedly representative of our society, one that does believe in, hopefully ‘free’ speech. A site supposedly allows reasonable debate, perhaps even to question when the pendulum of opinion has begun to swing perhaps a little too far from common sense.

If that post crossed the lines allowed by law, then it is prosecutable. If not, then why the reaction?

The post expressed a sentiment that has been freely discussed at length in the past. If not acceptable now, it would seem then a change has occurred.

A change that is a matter of concern, about how the actions of a minority in present society, is effecting a change out of all proportion to what, up till now has recorded a past that reflected the times in which it happened.

A change that perhaps does not reflect entirely fairly upon the necessary changes that have occurred, and seems, does happen, when a pendulum has swung past a reasonably correct/sensible course?

The rules for Current Affairs were laid down a while ago.

Current Affairs is primarily for the serious discussion of military-political topics and other matters which may affect us as members of the armed forces.

It isn't for:

1. Political point scoring

2. Attempts at comedy (which doesn't mean you can't be witty)

3. Propagation of conspiracy theories

4. Outrage threads

5. Baiting of cultural, ethnic, religious or sexual groups.

6. Threads centred on Race.

As to why the BLM thread was taken down.

It was riddled with racist abuse.

Firstly, to answer your question regarding the site being representative of our society, I do not believe that to be the case. This site is heavily military leaning, and anonomous, our society is not.

Secondly. Society in general are accountable for their actions under law. One two, or half a dozen people start being racisct in the General Populace then these individuals are easily identified and can be brought to justice. On this site it is not that easy. That said, The moderators are not here to hide racists but we are here to take down racist posts and dole out infractions in an attempt to stop them repeating. This is not a Town Hall meeting where neer-do-wells can be evicted never to return, nor is it a debating Society.

Members here are asked to stick to some (pretty simple) rules, however, those members that constantly infringe those rules will be removed from the site. The trouble is, they reappear quite quickly in another guise and continue in the same vein. In General Society, when one is punished, that individual does not have the opportunity to immediately pop up as somebody else and continue to break the rules. That is a fundemental difference between this site and and our Society.

The threads (or posts) that 'cross the line of law' as you put it, how would you like to make it possible to prosecute? Would you like the Site owners to dig out the miscreants personal details (the little they have) and hand it over to the law? Or, as happens now (and with tens of thousands other forums across the internet) the moderators take down the offending thread (or post) and that's the end of the matter? Threads are taken down to protect the owners of the site, It's their site, that they are responsible for, they merely lend it to us, (well it's free of charge) the Police have already spoken to the Site owners on another matter, none of us want that to happen again.

To finish, this is an anonymous forum with a scattering of keyboard warriers, a sprinkle of internet hard men trying to be edgy and a massive amount of excellent, hugely informative threads posted by informed and often very amusing members. Let the moderators deal with the minority trying to spoil the site.

Enjoy the site for what it is and because of it's very nature, expect to have theads pulled from time to time.

 

[PhotEx]

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