What if?

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  1. Was talking to a chap at work who saw a programme about the Falklands and how close a call it was, just posed the question what if the Argentinian ground troops had defeated the British or had faught them to a standstill running out of ammo etc, was there a contingency to send another task force ( a la Dunkirk tug boats) to either pick them up or have another bash?

    Politically I realise it would've been a very sticky situation, but would it have been too big a pill for MT to swallow and sent in Womens Auxilliary Balloon Corps just to save face?
  2. It wasn't 'that' close surely?
    After all, they're only argentinians......sort of like spaniards what dont live in spain. You know, short hairy types. Shut their eyes as they soak up the recoil of a badly aimed shot.

    We would have carried on fighting with conscripts if we'd had to.
  3. Heard a rumour at the time that there was a bit of a search for a lost horse shoe nail ... fortunately it was found together with a message that the Gods of War were looking favourably on our being victorious .
  4. I believe an Exocet in a carrier would've been a party stopper.
  5. But none of that happened did it, they started it and we finished it. No need for further speculation; end of.
  6. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    We usually win our wars because despite starting really badly and usually unprepared we finish as the enemy doesnt have a clue how bad we really are and how short our shoestring budget is!
    What would have been worse would be us winning then leaving the place to be invaded 2 years later. That would look bad!
  7. Allegedly only if the carrier had been Hermes, the loss of Invincible would only have been "very tricky".
  8. They would have had to establish a Berlin style Airbridge to sustain their garrison due to their ships going the way of the Belgrano every time they ventured away from their berths
  9. If you mean the Argentines, they did. In spite of the Black Buck raids, C130s were landing at Stanley until the eve of the cease fire.

    The RAF claimed that they couldn't emulate the the Argentines because, after the cease fire, there wasn't a war on and so safety standards reverted to peace time.
  10. Edited for you.....

    Any bets on when it'll start to look bad?
  11. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    I think it went bad when MPA was finished and they started to draw down on troops.

    FORMER_FYRDMAN LE Book Reviewer

    I suspect that, despite the hardship, we'd have dug in to maintain a presence, screamed for help from the Yanks (who would have been a bit worried about a key NATO ally getting so completely humiliated and would have probably helped with limited supply), agreed an immediate ceasefire and followed it all up with an agreement over the Malvinas and a British Government led by Michael Foot. Good job we won really.
  13. I reckon we'd either have bankrolled Pinochet to the point that he allowed us an in country armoured brigade (or 2) for "manoeuvres" near the Argie border or started to make very loud noises about creating unscheduled sunrises in South America. Both of which would have been disturbing enough to the East/West balance for the Septics to intervene.
  14. The Berlin Blockade lasted from Jun 48 - May 49, almost 12 months. The combined Air Forces flew over 200,000 flights and delivered about 4700 Tons of goods daily.

    The Belgrano was sunk on May 2nd and the cease fire was the 14 Jun, so they managed to sneak a couple of Hercs in a night for just over a month after their sea route was closed.

    How long would they have been able to sustain a Garrison and population under hostile sea and air patrols. All academic of course because we won in the first place :)
  15. A favourite tale from the time involved the PM being advised that the gearbox on one of the carriers was stuffed.

    Maggie immediately thinks of the gearbox on the Austin Allegro that she used to drive and that Dennis once had to have fixed.

    "I've seen a gearbox," says MT, "surely you can just fly out a new one."

    "A carrier gearbox is the size of a small house and weighs hundreds of tons PM", says 1SL.
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