What if there was a Union for the Armed Forces?

Legs

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I know it's illegal, and it'll probably never happen. But let's delve into the fantasy for a while.

What if the Armed Forces did have a Union?

Let's call it the Sovereign National Armed Forces Union. They start business tomorrow and 90% of the Armed Forces (Regular and Reserve) join the Union. They pay between £6.00 and £15.00 per month depending on rank. The Union is a realistic one and would only fight for things that are fair, deserved and (semi-)realistic, and it has a bit of bite and the respect of the nation and parts of the Government.

What would be on the list of things for them to start fighting for, for the guys and girls who serve the Crown?
 
I haven't been a Regular, but have mates who are still in.

Accomodation both for singlies and married people and bring back ACC.
Daughters friend is a serving soldier, he avoids the cookhouse and orders takeaways nearly every night as the standard of scoff is so bad.

(I'll find out who he's with and where he's based)

Edit..and get rid of PAYD. take the money for food out at source, that way, even if a young lad is skint, he knows he's getting 3 meals a day regardless
 

Joker62

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Edit..and get rid of PAYD. take the money for food out at source, that way, even if a young lad is skint, he knows he's getting 3 meals a day regardless

Now,now, can't be doing that as it gets a lot of people going on about paying for meals that they don't attend, weekends for instance. Plus PAYD could've been a good thing if you were allowed to have swipe cards to account for the meals that you ate and pay off next month. But, as luck would have it, those in charge of PAYD have allowed the companies to claim the cash at the time of eating and not wait for 30 days despite those same companies making their suppliers wait upto 90 days.
 

udipur

LE
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A dedicated hall on each camp for whingeing.
The right to avoid combat.
Dissolution of command structure.
Drugs testing abolished.
Drill abandoned.
More medals.
Brighter uniforms.
Banana Republic to design said uniforms.
etc etc
 
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Just think - An Armed Forces Union would be like having Arrse posters as paid union reps...
 
Just think - An Armed Forces Union would be like having Arrse posters as paid union reps...
Return to SLR's, egg banjos every two hours, a memo stating pay day and a photo' of Xena's knockers in every barrack room .

Yellow handbags attached to webbing and a luxury outrage bus on permanent stand by.


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More than one sausage.

An additional 5% pay rise every time the fire 'service' go on strike.
Plus PAYD could've been a good thing if you were allowed to have swipe cards to account for the meals that you ate and pay off next month.
They trialled swipe cards in the late '80s.
A dedicated hall on each camp for whingeing.
The right to avoid combat.
Dissolution of command structure.
Drugs testing abolished.
Drill abandoned.
More medals.
Brighter uniforms.
Banana Republic to design said uniforms.
etc etc
Just like the RAF then?

An armed forces union is not allowed now but brownhattery was not allowed in the forces years ago and that changed.
 
More than one sausage.

An additional 5% pay rise every time the fire 'service' go on strike.

They trialled swipe cards in the late '80s.

Just like the RAF then?

An armed forces union is not allowed now but brownhattery was not allowed in the forces years ago and that changed.
At least they only made it compulsory in the crabs and the pussers.


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surprised nobody mentioned it, union reps would have to be private soldiers/Jnco,s, losing the appointment on promotion.
 
When you had recruits who had a rough idea of what they were going into in the first place via the horror stories from their Dads and Uncles about HM's finest, and decent Snco's who were firm but fair, and not career orientated weasels you didn't need a Union, as in my mind, things tended to balance themselves out one way or another.
 

Honkytonkman

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Now,now, can't be doing that as it gets a lot of people going on about paying for meals that they don't attend, weekends for instance. Plus PAYD could've been a good thing if you were allowed to have swipe cards to account for the meals that you ate and pay off next month. But, as luck would have it, those in charge of PAYD have allowed the companies to claim the cash at the time of eating and not wait for 30 days despite those same companies making their suppliers wait upto 90 days.

If you were to book out on JPA for the weekend, you wouldn't have to pay for those meals.


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The saddest reality I learned over a long career was that most "change/improvement" instigated by the establishment was beneficial to said establishment only. Weasel worded PR/Harvard speak implementations.
 

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