What film have you just watched?

Joker62

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Gunpowder Milkshake, a Sky Original. Featuring Lena Headey and Karen Gillan as mother/daughter female assassins, it has a couple of reasonable fight scenes, a fair bit of decent CGI gore, it also has Paul Giamatti has the head of the assassins and quite a few humourous scenes.


3.5 smashed kneecaps out of 5
 

Awol

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BBC 4 ‘College behind bars’ Storyville.

Apparently if you commit serious crimes in the US of A you get given a degree in the subject of your choice.

The regular law-abiding US citizen pays thousands of dollars through the nose for the same privilege.

I understand why they want to give prisoners a new chance in life, but a free degree after killing someone? It’s an insult to the millions of students who have obeyed the law since birth.
 
BBC 4 ‘College behind bars’ Storyville.

Apparently if you commit serious crimes in the US of A you get given a degree in the subject of your choice.

The regular law-abiding US citizen pays thousands of dollars through the nose for the same privilege.

I understand why they want to give prisoners a new chance in life, but a free degree after killing someone? It’s an insult to the millions of students who have obeyed the law since birth.
People have figured out that you need to do extensive work with offenders in order to facilitate their reentry into society, or they just end up back in prison. Education is a key piece of this but the emphasis is on getting high school degrees and vocational training. There are opportunities for college education and the prisoners pay for them the way most US citizens help pay for college - Pell Grants.

As to the value of these programs? According to RAND, it reduces recidivism by 43%. You can argue unfairness but it is an extremely cost effective program that protects society.
 

Awol

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People have figured out that you need to do extensive work with offenders in order to facilitate their reentry into society, or they just end up back in prison. Education is a key piece of this but the emphasis is on getting high school degrees and vocational training. There are opportunities for college education and the prisoners pay for them the way most US citizens help pay for college - Pell Grants.

As to the value of these programs? According to RAND, it reduces recidivism by 43%. You can argue unfairness but it is an extremely cost effective program that protects society.
Agreed. But it’s still rewards violent criminals.

Why not just sit back and give them $3000 a week? (that’s what they’ll earn anyway, once they’ve got a degree)

That would reduce crime as well, without all the trouble and expense of giving them a free degree.

If I speed on the M4, (which I did a year ago and got 4 points on my licence for doing 66mph in a 50mph zone, the b’stards) I get nicked, which I accept is right and proper. But I don’t get given the chance to get a degree as part of my ‘punishment’. If, as Joe Public over the age of 18, I want a degree, it will cost me tens of thousands of pounds.

Unless (in the States) I’m extremely violent in carrying out my crime, in which case I get it all for free.

Something is wrong somewhere.
 
Agreed. But it’s still rewards violent criminals.

Why not just sit back and give them $3000 a week? (that’s what they’ll earn anyway, once they’ve got a degree)

That would reduce crime as well, without all the trouble and expense of giving them a free degree.

If I speed on the M4, (which I did a year ago and got 4 points on my licence for doing 66mph in a 50mph zone, the b’stards) I get nicked, which I accept is right and proper. But I don’t get given the chance to get a degree as part of my ‘punishment’. If, as Joe Public over the age of 18, I want a degree, it will cost me tens of thousands of pounds.

Unless (in the States) I’m extremely violent in carrying out my crime, in which case I get it all for free.

Something is wrong somewhere.
HM Prisons have education, including degrees, available to inmates. iirc Myra Hindley gained a Masters or two during her incarceration.
 

ches

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Watched Help on All4 the other day. Much hyped film about a care home worker during COVID March-June 2020. Jodie Comer & Stephen Graham, her the young new starter in a private care home, him a patient suffering from early onset Alzheimer’s. The first 40 mins is excellent & tbh it got a bit dusty at times as it does pull at the heart strings with Grahams portrayal of a young bloke who’s life is essentially over – no relatives, in a home he has no chance of ever leaving except when he goes walkabout on occasion. Comer is outstanding (yet again) & her struggle to cope with the burden as she has to cope when COVID begins to kill lots of the patients & she’s stuck there at times on her own is a good piece of acting. She’s not been on the scene long but she’s most certainly going to be a huge star with big things ahead of her. This role takes her achievements on Killing Eve to a new level.

But, after the 40 mins threshold, the film seems to take a cliched plot route & while the acting is still superb, it ends up as a socialist type of dig at the govt handling of the pandemic & the alleged abandonment of the care home sector. It’s a debateable topic & worthy of discussion but as an addon to an otherwise excellent film it’s a bit lost & irrelevant.





4.5 damaged brain cells out of 5
 
Agreed. But it’s still rewards violent criminals.

Why not just sit back and give them $3000 a week? (that’s what they’ll earn anyway, once they’ve got a degree)

That would reduce crime as well, without all the trouble and expense of giving them a free degree.

If I speed on the M4, (which I did a year ago and got 4 points on my licence for doing 66mph in a 50mph zone, the b’stards) I get nicked, which I accept is right and proper. But I don’t get given the chance to get a degree as part of my ‘punishment’. If, as Joe Public over the age of 18, I want a degree, it will cost me tens of thousands of pounds.

Unless (in the States) I’m extremely violent in carrying out my crime, in which case I get it all for free.

Something is wrong somewhere.
Most prisoners are not violent. Furthermore, things like education are used to reward and motivate good behavior in prison. If you are a violent prisoner in the US you spend your time in solitary confinement, not in class.
 
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гаражaне, or Garage People, on BBC iPlayer.


The garages aren't for cars, but for chicken breeders, music studio, fitness room, icon carver, houses, losers in life, drunks and dreamers, or anything or anyone who can fit into them.

The garages are on the edge of a run down desolate one industry mining town in Northern Russia, full of broken down old people and young ones looking for way out.

How can that be interesting? Well as it turned out, I found it an engrossing look at the owners and inhabitants.

One lot being German army re-enactors (in Russia? You'd think after WW2, that would be a big no no) who get into their gear and carry their MG42 into some ruins and fire off rounds, possibly re-enacting Stalingrad.

The saddest and strangest, an old bloke of 73, started digging below his garage when he was in his mid 20s, and with just shovels and buckets, dug down 3 storeys (I think) shoring up with steels and concrete he filched from the mine. There was a scene where he was showing his grandson around saying this will be yours, and I sensed the grandson was thinking, "WTF am I going to do with this". The old man was losing his strength and couldn't dig anymore, and died shortly after following a period of listlessness and loss of will. Almost as if the digging gave him a purpose in life in the miserable sh*thole of a town. And after all that, the grandson wanted to leave for St Petersburg.

A lovely film, a mix of touching and funny moments with hard won observations on life by the inhabitants.
 
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Watched 'Sideways' last night. An old one from 2004 with Paul Giamatti and Thomas Church. A teeny bit arty but well worth a watch.
 
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Slime

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Watched 'Sidways'last night. An old one from 2004 with Paul Giamatti and Thomas Church. A teeny bit arty but well worth a watch.

I’m liking the idea a 2004 film is an ‘old one’ :)
 

Slime

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Last night I watched the 1952 Hammer film: Man Bait.

A crime drama with a pretty good plot, and a film that holds up very well for its age.
The film had a selection of well known actors, but also introduced Diana Dors in a main role.

The film is free on Youtube, and worth a watch.
 
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We watched this black comedy version of the Little Red Riding Hood story from 1996 last night. Vanessa, played by Reese Witherspoon, is the 15 year old illiterate daughter of a hooker who has just been arrested for soliciting. She decides to find her only remaining relation, her grandmother, and steals her probation officer’s car to make the journey. Of course the car breaks down and she is offered a lift by Bob, a murderous social worker, played by Kiefer Sutherland. I’ll give no more details of the film, other than it was fun and enjoyable, but the performance by Reese Witherspoon is superb. It also has a great cast, Mrs Carbon and I were constantly going, “where do we know that actor from?”
 
гаражaне, or Garage People, on BBC iPlayer.


The garages aren't for cars, but for chicken breeders, music studio, fitness room, icon carver, houses, losers in life, drunks and dreamers, or anything or anyone who can fit into them.

The garages are on the edge of a run down desolate one industry mining town in Northern Russia, full of broken down old people and young ones looking for way out.

How can that be interesting? Well as it turned out, I found it an engrossing look at the owners and inhabitants.

One lot being German army re-enactors (in Russia? You'd think after WW2, that would be a big no no) who get into their gear and carry their MG42 into some ruins and fire off rounds, possibly re-enacting Stalingrad.

The saddest and strangest, an old bloke of 73, started digging below his garage when he was in his mid 20s, and with just shovels and buckets, dug down 3 storeys (I think) shoring up with steels and concrete he filched from the mine. There was a scene where he was showing his grandson around saying this will be yours, and I sensed the grandson was thinking, "WTF am I going to do with this". The old man was losing his strength and couldn't dig anymore, and died shortly after following a period of listlessness and loss of will. Almost as if the digging gave him a purpose in life in the miserable sh*thole of a town. And after all that, the grandson wanted to leave for St Petersburg.

A lovely film, a mix of touching and funny moments with hard won observations on life by the inhabitants.
I'll put that in my queue. Just the sort of weird stuff I enjoy.
 

Diaz - Don't Clean Up This Blood


Utterly brutal. It's an accurate depiction of the Italian police attack on the Diaz school in Genoa.

Background: 2001 G8 Summit in Genoa, 200,000 protesters tried to blockade the meetings. Many of them were violent. The Italian police were more than a little annoyed. They eventually brought in the hard men to crackdown in a series of targeted raids. One raid - a straightforward assault followed by a police rampage - was launched on the Diaz school that was an activist base. Unfortunately, the hardcore trouble makers had already left. What remained was a mixed bunch of student types, journalists, and other harmless odds and ends.

Scary film. It may leave you more than a little unsettled.

 

philc

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Diaz - Don't Clean Up This Blood


Utterly brutal. It's an accurate depiction of the Italian police attack on the Diaz school in Genoa.

Background: 2001 G8 Summit in Genoa, 200,000 protesters tried to blockade the meetings. Many of them were violent. The Italian police were more than a little annoyed. They eventually brought in the hard men to crackdown in a series of targeted raids. One raid - a straightforward assault followed by a police rampage - was launched on the Diaz school that was an activist base. Unfortunately, the hardcore trouble makers had already left. What remained was a mixed bunch of student types, journalists, and other harmless odds and ends.

Scary film. It may leave you more than a little unsettled.

is that the one where the protesters try to kill the Policeman in the Landrover by smashing the windows with a fire extinguisher.

You had hardcore Italian Anachists creating mayhem for days, not condoning some of the violence meted out, however big boy rules.
 
is that the one where the protesters try to kill the Policeman in the Landrover by smashing the windows with a fire extinguisher.

You had hardcore Italian Anachists creating mayhem for days, not condoning some of the violence meted out, however big boy rules.
There was a contingent of Black Block anarchists and other assorted nasties on the loose. Their single goal was to riot and cause mayhem.

The belated Italian police response was to start cracking heads. They were brutal and inept in equal measure. A Mussolini approach to policing.
 

TamH70

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There was a contingent of Black Block anarchists and other assorted nasties on the loose. Their single goal was to riot and cause mayhem.

The belated Italian police response was to start cracking heads. They were brutal and inept in equal measure. A Mussolini approach to policing.

No sympathy for them, especially not for the journalist who got his ribs smashed for his troubles. The exiting stage right of the Black Block scum should have been a clue to the rest to get the frick out of there as well. They should have known that the Italian fuzz had had their patience with twats like them exhausted.

BTW, my bold - not so, I'm afraid. Benito would have had them all shot, or jailed then shot, or jailed, then flung into the darkest pits in Genoa and then shot.

But shot nonetheless.
 
No sympathy for them, especially not for the journalist who got his ribs smashed for his troubles. The exiting stage right of the Black Block scum should have been a clue to the rest to get the frick out of there as well. They should have known that the Italian fuzz had had their patience with twats like them exhausted.

BTW, my bold - not so, I'm afraid. Benito would have had them all shot, or jailed then shot, or jailed, then flung into the darkest pits in Genoa and then shot.

But shot nonetheless.
I get what you're saying.

If the Black Block had resisted arrest and woken up handcuffed to a hospital bed, or even not woken up, I'd have said that they got their just deserts.

Paramilitary police going apeshit on silly students and naïve do-gooders. On a bad day, that proposition has it's attractions too...

Civilised head on: Not unless society is on the verge of outright collapse. The police exist to uphold the law, not to break it. Next year, it could be you and yours getting truncheoned into a coma.
 

Nemesis44UK

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The Bang Bang Club - Netflix
Four photojournalists cover the violence and rioting in the runups to the Mandela election. Covering horrific scenes of murder including necklacing and machete attacks, they find that whilst they garner plaudits for their daring photos, the personal toll is too much.

Ryan Philippe stars as Greg Maranovich(sp?), with Taylor Kitsch as the infamous Kevin Carter. Knowing a bit about Carter and his history, I felt that he was well-played by Kitsch, showing the downward spiral of his career.

It's one of those films that won't ever get Oscar noms, but is just a solid, steady, interesting movie.

Recommended.

Also:

Promising Young Woman - Sky/NowTV
Carey Mulligan plays the titular role in this Sky Original movie. She works in a coffee shop after dropping out of med school, amusing herself by ignoring customers and occasionally spitting in their coffee. She left med school because her best friend, Nina, had been raped at a drunken frat party. Craving revenge, at weekends, she poses as a drunk, inviting sex pests to take her home, where they get a rude awakening.

Not nearly as violent as this could've been (or perhaps should've been), this has an interesting tone. On the one hand, it's as light and frothy as an episode of Gilmore Girls, with amusing dialogue and snark. On the other hand, it's a pretty damning indictment of men and some of the grotty, evil things they do. I dare anyone to watch it without recognising a line, a knowing wink or smile from someone they know. Men are pigs, the film clearly infers and it's pretty difficult to deny based on the characters.

I really liked it. The characters are well written and Mulligan conveys unsaid emotion very well indeed. The conflict when she discovers love is writ large - does she abandon her plans for revenge, letting Nina down, or should she take the advice Nina's mother gives her; to move on with her life?

Personally, I would've loved a harder, gorier rating, but even so, it's a thought-provoking and well made movie.

Recommended.
 

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