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What film have you just watched?

Never seen “ The Battle of Algiers “ before . I downloaded it a couple of days ago . What a film ... no wonder it won so many awards . Too much to take in with just one viewing . Being in black and white it is even more dramatic . The terrorist organisation , tactics and attacks …. bombings and shootings … I am sure created models . Well filmed outdoors and lots of just ordinary people as extras which again adds to the realism . Surprised that attempts were not made by the authorities to suppress / censor the film because of the torture scenes ** ….they have form … France banned the showing of “ Paths of Glory “ for a number of years

I was on a two week school trip / holiday to Paris in the mid 50’s and remember a lot of heavily armed Police especially outside their local HQ which was just around the corner from the Hotel ... perhaps that was just the norm
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ETA ... ** Now found out it was also banned for a number of years in France

And that fantastic music by Ennio Morricone.
Showing his proper composing credentials in spite of the crap he wrote during his 'Spaghetti Western' period.
I can only presume that Morricone did the Clint Eastwood stuff etc to pay some bills.
The great man himself conducting the theme to The Battle of Algiers >>

 
And that fantastic music by Ennio Morricone.
Showing his proper composing credentials in spite of the crap he wrote during his 'Spaghetti Western' period.
I can only presume that Morricone did the Clint Eastwood stuff etc to pay some bills.
The great man himself conducting the theme to The Battle of Algiers >>

Totally agree ... the music superbly reflects the atmosphere of various parts of the film .
 

Kirkz

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And that fantastic music by Ennio Morricone.
Showing his proper composing credentials in spite of the crap he wrote during his 'Spaghetti Western' period.
I can only presume that Morricone did the Clint Eastwood stuff etc to pay some bills.
The great man himself conducting the theme to The Battle of Algiers >>

Fuck all wrong with his The Good, The Bad And The Ugly theme, it's a fucking classic.
 

Kirkz

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Just a matter of taste Kirkz.
Morricone wrote some seriously good stuff but is mainly remembered for his 'Spaghetti Western' music which I feel is a shame.
That can be said of an awful lot of people.
That doesn't mean they should be derided for the stuff they are remembered for.
My favourit band Yello will always be remembered for The Race yet their earlier stuff is much much better than that. Doesn't bother me though I just listen to the stuff I love and let the rest of the world live in ignorance.
 
That can be said of an awful lot of people.
That doesn't mean they should be derided for the stuff they are remembered for.
My favourit band Yello will always be remembered for The Race yet their earlier stuff is much much better than that. Doesn't bother me though I just listen to the stuff I love and let the rest of the world live in ignorance.

It's an opinion, I have mine and you have yours.
We are both entitled to them apparently.
 

Kirkz

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It's an opinion, I have mine and you have yours.
We are both entitled to them apparently.
Damn straight.
I like Ennio Morricone and I like his spaghetti western stuff too.
 

Slime

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I need a bit of help with a film.

Im trying to remember the name of a film, and a quick plot google hasn’t helped.

I’m sure I’ve seen it mentioned on ARRSE, so here goes.

I haven’t seen all of this film, but did get to watch a short section a few minutes long.
From memory it’s British, black and white, and late fifties to early sixties.

I think the plot revolves around a group that are reformed criminals or bank robbers, and (again from memory) there is a scene showing a bank job/safe job with a couple of the reformed criminals with lots of cash around them. The dilemma being whether to stay straight or not.

The film seemed to be a comedy in a similar fashion to The lady killers or School for Scoundrels.

Any ideas?
 

NSP

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The Eastern Front - Point of No Return.

Cut-off platoon of Wehrmacht get harried by the Red Army and each other as they try to find their new front line. Looks like one of those low-budget self-made things that re-enactors make. The kit is quite authentically detailed and there's even an obershutze and a couple of tank killer tapes/badges on right sleeves. It's shot on a wooded farm in East Sussex, though, and the "cast" are all Brits. No attempt at German accents, ranks are the English versions ("Corporal" instead of "Obergefrieter." "Sergeant" instead of "Unteroffizier." Oh, and "lootenant" instead of "Leutnant."), but the three Russian girls (an officers mattress and two army medics) they are dragging along put on Russian accents. Even though they are apparently Essex girls.

No panzer porn in the big bunfight at the climax, either. Chicks are hot but don't show any flesh.

I'd not bother, if I were you.
 
Mr Jones is well worth a watch. Barely broadcast here, documents the Welsh reporter Gareth Jones's account of the Holodomor in the Ukraine, replete with cannibalism. Link for free watching on request.

That was on my must see list, but we went into lockdown the week before it was released where I live.

Finally saw it last night. I didn't know about Gareth Jones, an idealist and intellectual, but did know about the famine. Good cast and well made. Was surprised to see the Edinburgh and East Neuk of Fife filming locations. The bulk of the film was made in Poland.

When I got home, I checked my ex boss's diary (I had a hunch) and came up with an interesting paragraph about Walter Duranty, written in 1941.

"By the middle of July I knew positively Marina [his fiancée] was trying to get out [from Greece to Egypt] and had arranged the necessary permits. However, at the same time, I received a Soviet visa. This astonished me because no other correspondent was granted one (including the American we later discovered was working for Moscow) and I had been writing hostile, anti-Stalinist articles.

The New York Times had kept a representative in Russia throughout the bleak years when there were no diplomatic links with the United states. This man, a talented writer and brilliant conversationalist named Walter Duranty, had been highly regarded by the Kremlin. He was instrumental in furthering the recognition that followed Roosevelt's election in 1932. Duranty, a friend of mine, was witty, spry, flamboyant and energetic although he had a wooden leg. I knew him in Bucharest where he had great success with the ladies. He was eventually replaced and the last of our correspondents in Moscow, a testy, vain Englishman named Gedye, had persuaded the Times to withdraw him and close down the bureau becuase he was bored and stymied by rigid censorship. Possible the Russians were as eager as the Times to re-estblish a report from the most influential American paper."

CL Sulzberger "A Long Row of Candles"

I'm not surprised Duranty "had been highly regarded by the Kremlin" after his portrayal in Mr Jones. No spoilers, go see it for yourself. Gareth Jones deserves his belated recognition.
 
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sirbhp

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Danger Short,the movie version of the battle of long tan.
I enjoyed it as a no brain late night movie , however as far as the plot went it seemed that every one was at each others throat on the Aussie side. Couple of scenes needed explanation , the ammo not being already loaded into mags and the fact that they were tole to leave their bayonets at home in case someone got hurt . Mix of the siege of Jadoville and Zulu even down to the roll call at the end. Worth the £1.99 I paid to Amazon
The real men did an outstanding job but the Government did'nt recognise this for over 40 years . Anyone know why and were any back dated medals issued?
. Not a classic but entertaining all the same
 
Danger Short,the movie version of the battle of long tan.
I enjoyed it as a no brain late night movie , however as far as the plot went it seemed that every one was at each others throat on the Aussie side. Couple of scenes needed explanation , the ammo not being already loaded into mags and the fact that they were tole to leave their bayonets at home in case someone got hurt . Mix of the siege of Jadoville and Zulu even down to the roll call at the end. Worth the £1.99 I paid to Amazon
The real men did an outstanding job but the Government did'nt recognise this for over 40 years . Anyone know why and were any back dated medals issued?
. Not a classic but entertaining all the same

Why no recognition at the time gawd only knows. At the stage that Long Tan was fought there was general support for Australian troops being there. The moratorium marches and opposition came later. For what was awarded both then and later see THIS LINK. There was a great deal of scathing criticism of the two senior officers being awarded the DSO while many recommendations were either down-graded or lost.

The battle took place not long after Australian troops had moved to the Nui Dat site in Phouc Tuy Province. The Australians were still settling in at the base and it wasn't completely organised at the time. It was later found out that the Vietnamese thought they could knock the Australians out of the battle by a decisive defeat.

What didn't get told in the film was that radio intelligence was tracking a VC regiment radio transmitter as it got closer to the base. The intelligence officer thought that base was about to be attacked by something like 2,500 men. This information was not handed down to the combat commanders. Why is not clear but there was a degree of animosity between the senior intelligence officer and the Task Force Commander. There is a far better description of these failings on the site that link goes to. That web site was created by the executive director of the film and the maker of the documentary regarding the battle. It contains a wealth of information about the battle.
 
The Eastern Front - Point of No Return.

Cut-off platoon of Wehrmacht get harried by the Red Army and each other as they try to find their new front line. Looks like one of those low-budget self-made things that re-enactors make. The kit is quite authentically detailed and there's even an obershutze and a couple of tank killer tapes/badges on right sleeves. It's shot on a wooded farm in East Sussex, though, and the "cast" are all Brits. No attempt at German accents, ranks are the English versions ("Corporal" instead of "Obergefrieter." "Sergeant" instead of "Unteroffizier." Oh, and "lootenant" instead of "Leutnant."), but the three Russian girls (an officers mattress and two army medics) they are dragging along put on Russian accents. Even though they are apparently Essex girls.

No panzer porn in the big bunfight at the climax, either. Chicks are hot but don't show any flesh.

I'd not bother, if I were you.

The big Hollywood style war films have loads of effects and get the historical details all wrong...

The re-enactor style budget films are the other way round - they get the little historical details right but lack a plot, specials effects, decent storyline etc etc...
 

morsk

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in spite of the crap he wrote during his 'Spaghetti Western' period.
I can only presume that Morricone did the Clint Eastwood stuff etc to pay some bills.
Which was just one film, and he worked on all of Sergio Leones films. 60 odd or something (can't be arrsed to look it up), so the bill paying thing seems unlikley to me, and also remember that contextually, a full orchestration on a Spag Western would have been frankly weird, when you consider the theme of the film, the sparce dialogue and intertwining back stories. He probably did do them to pay bills, because nothing in life is free, and it seems that you are suggesting that someone you hold very in high regard, would stoop to churn out dog shit just to afford beans from Salisburys. Can you see how that is sending a mixed message?

ETA don't say a bad word about Clint. He is an excellent actor/director/producer
 
Danger Short,the movie version of the battle of long tan.
I enjoyed it as a no brain late night movie , however as far as the plot went it seemed that every one was at each others throat on the Aussie side. Couple of scenes needed explanation , the ammo not being already loaded into mags and the fact that they were tole to leave their bayonets at home in case someone got hurt . Mix of the siege of Jadoville and Zulu even down to the roll call at the end. Worth the £1.99 I paid to Amazon
The real men did an outstanding job but the Government did'nt recognise this for over 40 years . Anyone know why and were any back dated medals issued?
. Not a classic but entertaining all the same

The final report into upgrading of Long Tan decorations. Harry Smith recommended 13 men for upgrades. Some are approved, some rejected and one is awarded a medal when Smith recommended a commendation. Jack Kirby doesn't get his DCM upgraded to a VC due to lack of evidence.

 
ETA don't say a bad word about Clint. He is an excellent actor/director/producer
Agree on the director and producer tag, but I cant recall any of his characters as anything other than Clint Eastwood playing Clint Eastwood
 

Kirkz

LE
Agree on the director and producer tag, but I cant recall any of his characters as anything other than Clint Eastwood playing Clint Eastwood
Million dollar baby?
 

morsk

LE
Bring it on. 27 yo Gabrielle Union. Eliza Dushku (sp?) Kirstin Dunst. Tsianina Joelson. Cheer leader outfits. Nuff said.

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Which was just one film, and he worked on all of Sergio Leones films. 60 odd or something (can't be arrsed to look it up), so the bill paying thing seems unlikley to me, and also remember that contextually, a full orchestration on a Spag Western would have been frankly weird, when you consider the theme of the film, the sparce dialogue and intertwining back stories. He probably did do them to pay bills, because nothing in life is free, and it seems that you are suggesting that someone you hold very in high regard, would stoop to churn out dog shit just to afford beans from Salisburys. Can you see how that is sending a mixed message?

ETA don't say a bad word about Clint. He is an excellent actor/director/producer

Just my opinion morsk, no need to get all upset about it.
By the way, I cannot recollect saying anything bad about Clint Eastwood so why mention it?
And if I do want to say something bad about him then I will.
 

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