what do you think of cadets?

#3
Cadets I have no issue with (except one). Its some of the walts who train them that need to be gripped.

And why have you put this in the wrong forum 5.56 (your height or age perhaps) got f all to do with the QM.

MODS please move or bin this thread
 
#7
I really loved cadets when I was in (ATC though, not ACF) - only seems to go downhill when either the kids or staff start treating it like a "real" military organisation.
 
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#8
I wouldn’t want to eat a whole one :D

Welcome back 5.56, ARRSE hasn’t been the same without you :wink:
 
#11
Mmm is that not the problem?

Is it a Military organisation or not? If so should it not have Military Instructors? If not then should not the Military get rid?
 
#12
Redshaggydog said:
Mmm is that not the problem?

Is it a Military organisation or not? If so should it not have Military Instructors? If not then should not the Military get rid?
Some of the best instructors I have met have been ex-cadets or civvies with no regualr or TA experience. The reason is that thjey have known no other beast but the ACF, can't Walt, because everyone knows they've always been Cadets and everyone knows that, and their knowledge is solely ACF based.

This means you do not get instances of Ex-Inf types teaching Basic and 1* Cadets battle First Aid from when they were "In", such as tourniquets (I have seen) or people doing the old "When I did 2 years in the TA we were with THEM and......" It also means that people who are medically unfit (not necesserily fat cunts) can contribute.

Unfortunately, we also have our share of Walting cunts, and power mad people who have never served. There are definitely problems, but they wouldn't be solved by making it Mil/ex-Mil only.

In my County certainly, the CTT need to liase more with detachments outside of annual camp. Thery provide the Military support, and should really be keeping the Walts in check if the upper echelons are not.

Rab
 
#13
When i was in, many moons ago. None of us treated it like mini army, it was just fun and pissing about with guns. Now it seems some actually consider themselves to be somehow connected to the military, and some spend vast amounts of money on super gucci kit. get rid of these tossers and it will be good :)
I still remeber with a tear in my eye when an ACF NCO was talking to me and wondered why i wasn't acknowledging his rank, he got very angry!!!
 
#14
We have a number of ex cadets in our mob, and theres a 75/25 mix of good/bad. The good are willing to learn, respect rank, and have a valuable contribution to make. The bad are basically gobshites who have been everywhere and seen everything, all at the age of 18/19, cannot be told the correct way to do things, claim they've done more advanced training than we try to teach them, so dont need to listen/take part and backchat senior ranks/disrupt lessons.


There.....Thats what I think of cadets.....
 
#15
Xplosiverab said:
Redshaggydog said:
Mmm is that not the problem?

Is it a Military organisation or not? If so should it not have Military Instructors? If not then should not the Military get rid?
Some of the best instructors I have met have been ex-cadets or civvies with no regualr or TA experience. The reason is that thjey have known no other beast but the ACF, can't Walt, because everyone knows they've always been Cadets and everyone knows that, and their knowledge is solely ACF based.

This means you do not get instances of Ex-Inf types teaching Basic and 1* Cadets battle First Aid from when they were "In", such as tourniquets (I have seen) or people doing the old "When I did 2 years in the TA we were with THEM and......" It also means that people who are medically unfit (not necesserily fat cunts) can contribute.

Unfortunately, we also have our share of Walting cunts, and power mad people who have never served. There are definitely problems, but they wouldn't be solved by making it Mil/ex-Mil only.

In my County certainly, the CTT need to liase more with detachments outside of annual camp. Thery provide the Military support, and should really be keeping the Walts in check if the upper echelons are not.

Rab
as an acf cadet myself i find tat ex-reg instuctors are better, for the most part those ex-cadets come straight from being a cadet-NCO and act as if nothing has changed, the ex-regs seem to have more compassion to those who may-not be fit enough to do things, and they encourage them much better to push to their very limits
 
#16
MODs, should this thread not be moved to somewhere a little more appropriate??
 
#18
I think the cadets can be a useful organisation but the instructors have to be of the right quality!! What I hate to see is these power mad walts drilling these young kids around sounding like the bloke off the opening credits of Bad Lads Army! Often they're standards of turnout leave a lot to be desired - combat jackets with rolled up sleeves, barrack dress and forage caps - it looks utterly w@nk!

I won't reserve my criticism to instructors though they probably have to take the blame for what I'm about to say. I'm sick to the back teeth of cadets on their way to drill nights, or whatever they call them, standing outside shops with combat jackets/CS95 shirts not buttoned/zipped up, munching crisps and smoking fags acting anti socially. I know they are only cadets, but they are wearing the Queen's uniform so I expect good standards and for them to set an example to other kids they're age.

Adult instructors take note and get a fecking grip because you are a bloody shower of sh1t!!
 
#20
5.56mm said:
what do you think of cadets? honest opinions
Fcuking well done son!!!
 
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