what do you guys feel about the new rifles capbadge?

do you feel it encompasses the traditions of the green jackets and the LI etc is it a new way forward or should it be left alone (i know this is academic now as it is changing either way) but wnat to hear peoples views on the new cap badge

 

No mini moke?, no crossed entrenching tools?
It blows!

 

it sums up the whole light division so its a good choice - better something simple rather than some of the monstrosities we've seen!

 

thought it looked good and it could have been a lot worse shame cant call yourself a green jackets anymore as rifles seems a bit too generic a name what happens to the 'royal' as in royal green jackets? shouldnt the new regiemnt becalled the royal rifles???

 

I think it's sweet revenge on the RGJ for the LI having to endure many years of "Arfur" cap badge gags rather than wearing a throwing star in their beret.

The bugle is a good choice as it shows the common heritage

 

well the original rifles back in the times of sharpe (yes i know he was fictional) all rifle men had the bugle as a capbadge with usually the n.o of the line infantry unit they where attached to so it has come full circle.

 

It could be worse,have you seen the Duke of Lancs Cap Badge,it look's like a Money Clip !!! All in all i think We (the RGJ) on a whole have got off rather litely,as regards Beret and Cap Badge...

 

The red backing couldn't stay as it was already part of an existing cap badge of one of the forming units. So that no one could say their badge was used fully a redesigned bugle without backing was used as it had common geritage throughout the regiments. Don't forget, the bugle is the international symbol of all light troops and is still used by European Regiments.

As for the belt badge - it was a concession for the fact that the new Rifle battalions will not have colours.

 

Not quite. The red backing was/is a battle honour and none were supposed to be worn in working dress...that is until the Glooms threw their teddy so repeatedly out of their pram that a concession was allowed (very reluctantly so I hear—bad move Glooms, you won the battle but you might have lost the war).

The belt badge bearing selected battle honours was the logical choice since the Rifle ethos does not include colours. Although it looks RGJ, it is in fact an amalgam of many different parts...as was the RGJ badge forty years ago.

 

Its a Rifles capbadge, look up some old pictures.

Could have been MUCH worse.

 

will it be about the same size as the old LI/RGJ or the bugle the size of a boomerang

 

Ugly- it wasn't a battle honour - they are on the colours. The red flash behind the cap badge commemorated a (so called) masacre of American troops - it was a regimental tradition shared with a dozen or so regiments whose light companies went into battle with unloaded muskets (if one went off while advancing through the woods the Yanks would have been forwarned - so the order was issued that "no grey flint be used". The bayonet was the weapon used to kill the enemy, so when the Yanks found them afterwards they assumed that they were rounded up and massacred - even the wounded)

 

I can't see why they couldn't have had a red backing to the cap badge. It was worn by the KRRC too after all, so not alien to Greenjackets.

I agree the hats, at least the newer pattern, are nasty and its a shame they didn't just bin them! And I was (well I suppose am again since stupidly becoming a cadet AI) mafia through and through.