What can I do being colour blind

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  1. Hi

    Hope someone can point me in the right direction. Recently been told I am CP4 colour blind and knocked back from the RAF. The Army recruiter said he didn't think it would be an issue and there is plenty I can do in the Army but couldn't go into anymore detail. I did the BARB some years ago and scored a 63 if memory serves right, but life took me in another direction. I'm confident I'll score the same again if not more and my fitness etc is spot on.
    Now that I am looking to join I am deciding between Officer or Solider but this would be easier if I knew what roles are available to the colour blind before I get my mind set on something. I have have found the CP grades for Officers on the forums but nothing for soliders.

    Any help/advice would be great

    Thanks in advance
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    FORMER_FYRDMAN LE Book Reviewer

    At the risk of being gripped by Disco again, let someone else do the driving.

    On a serious note - I was given to understand, many years ago, that the critical issue was being red/green safe. That said, I watched an Executive Stetch team struggle a bit when the map-reader was colour blind. The system will have considered this - I'd suggest be totally honest about your condition and its effect and let the Army decide. Don't bluff - if it's not on, it's not on for a good reason and it's for your benefit and the benefit of those you'll be working with. Good luck.
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  3. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    I was diagnosed as being colour blind some years ago. This means that all the thicko's think I can only see in black and white (This can be fun but that is a different story).
    During the test, the doctor told me that I was colour blind and that was it.
    I then started pointing out the colours on his coffee mug and asked him if I was correct (I was). I then pointed out other colours on things in his office and asked if I was correct (I was).
    This lead to a disagreement between myself and the doc about what colour blindness actually was.
    I said the test was bullshit as it was quite clear that I could differentiate as well as a 'non' colour blind person.
    After some argument he conceded that I had a very minor colour problem with red/green but only under artificial light and it also depended on the shade of the colour. A little bit different than 'total' colour blindness isn't it?

    I was not allowed to go REME, certain trades in RE and a couple of others. So I went in the Gunners.
    The Army even put me through my driving course in spite of me being 'officially' colour blind and to this day I do not have a conviction for jumping a light. This is because I can see the colours on traffic lights as well as anybody else amazingly enough.

    Question your alleged colour blindness and force them to be specific in excruciating detail.

    I always found it odd that the tests were invented and performed by persons with apparent perfect colour sight.

    How the **** could they know what colour blindness is?
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  4. If the top one is lit,Stop.Simples.
  5. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    Blimey, maybe it isn't red after all then :shock:
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  6. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    While I am on a roll about this subject I will give a little more detail about my so-called colour blindness test.

    The doctor was getting thoroughly pissed off at my insistence that I was not colour blind in the way he said I was.

    Cue ;
    Invitation to go outside to the car park, he said "My car is Maroon, point it out to me (smug grin)", I said "Do you mean the Ford Granada, the Escort or the Mercedes?" (Cheeky trick question ho-*******-ho).
    He then went through all of the colours of the cars and I got them right every time.

    Doc mumbles something like "Clucking Funt" and pronounces that it is obvious that my colour blindness is only applicable indoors. So we have progress, begrudging progress but progress all the same.

    Indoors I pointed to a poster and said "What colour is that, red? Or should it be green, I say it's red". He mumbles "Red, but it does have green bits in it". I pointed out the green parts and said "Do you mean these bits" and he replied "Yes" in a really pissed off manner.

    To cut the long story short, don't accept at face value what the test results say, if you feel confident enough challenge it you might be surprised at the backpeddling that could happen.

    L/Pte Jones has wired his own plugs for 35 years and hasn't blown anybody up yet and this includes the old type colours.

    However, I might apply for a Black & White TV license on the grounds that the colour blindness test couldn't possibly be a crock of shite.
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  7. How would you know? Seriously. It could be more of a cerise colour, if I looked at it through your eyes.
  8. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    Top colour is Red not cerise or any other colour just Red. That is what I see.


    Seriously, why would you think I would see it as cerise?
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  9. There are a whole host of things you can do, I have come across many people in the Army with colour blindness, in fact some in the RAF as well. I have asked a recruiter friend of mine, although he is RM he says he has come across it before and it is all down to your colour blindness level and the medical will determine this for you. Post the medical you will be given the options that remain open to you. Advice from a RM recruiter but I doubt the Army will be any different on that approach.

    Best of luck anyway, maybe the colour blindness is a blessing, it saved you from the RAF after all !!!
  10. Thanks for the replys. I was classified CP4 with the lantern test, which the RAF optometrist said I wouldn't be able to see aircraft on the airfield WTF!!!!! My current civvi job requires me to be spot on with fact and being able to differentiate colour is important for that, I couldn't believe what was coming out of her mouth to be honest but they sign the form and that was that, Medically unfit for service
    I can see colours but had a problem when the light green and white came together on the test, so there obviously is a perception issue.

    All I was offered from the RAF was Admin or musician, neither float my boat.

    Would just be good to know that I'm not going to be offered these via the army as well after going through the whole process to be disappointed again. I'm being upfront about everything no point hiding the truth, they've requseted all my records from the RAF.

    I'll find out sooner or later
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  11. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

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  12. That was tongue in cheek.

    But seriously how do we know that colour as WE perceive it is the same as someone else? Even with colour charts etc.
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  13. HHH

    HHH LE

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  14. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

    Nail on head C_F.

    I think the tests are (a) Inaccurate (b) Tending to 'label' people without taking into account individual differences and (c) Too heavily relied upon as a type of medical gospel truth.
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  15. Why is it they only test red green. And not blue green. I found I could not see all the numbers on red green tests but if I swapped the colours over on an image app I have to blue on green I can see it perfectly. And I found most people who could see red green could barely see blue on green and some couldnt at all.