What a load of Bo**ocks

#1
Well guys guess how annoyed i am now!!!!! Ive been turned down in the ta because i have asthma. Im so p**sed off with this. I only have very mild asthma which i only take medicine ever blue moon! I think this is such a bollocks reason. What do u guys think
 
#2
SM,

Sorry to hear that, but if you were having as asthma attack with your respirator on during a gas attack, you couldn't really take it off.

You could always try the ACF as an instructor.

msr
 
#4
You'd no doubt think death was a tad unfair after bimbling into the CS chamber.

Unfair is being forced to murder your parents, abducted, drugged and raped. Unfair is having your villiage washed from underneath you. Unfair is donating your teenaged years to fly for the very survival of your country, and then being left at the mercy of strokes, incontinece and senility without any support in old age.

Having asthma is unlucky - if you're otherwise healthy, stop making noises like a teenager and do something to sort out a real injustice.
 
#6
Stu

I did mention this yesterday. Asthma is one of the few no-nos.

If you feel really strongly, you could try asking for a specialist medical interview, but it's a long shot.

If you still can't get in, have you thought about being a Special Constable?

You don't get paid, but it would still give you the extra excitement you were looking for.

Kind regards

Fluffy
 
#7
I know i may be sound like a child and sound ungrateful. And im sorry about that to of disrespected any body out there. Its just i built my hopes up on getting in. Im sorry once more hope u except my appology Stu.
 
#8
ACF = Army Cadet Force.

msr
 
#9
No need to apologies Stumann, I know how it feels, I wanted to join the crabs as a navigator all my teenage years, fancied been cabbied around the atmos whilst some other walla did the hard stuff. Anyway, got knocked back when I fell at the first hurdle , the medical.

"So young chap" said the medico, "fancy been a navigator eh"
"Yessir" I replied trembling in anticipation or fear ( I'd heard about the cough n drop )
"Jolly good , just take your specs off and read the chart on the wall"

I took my specs off

"What chart sir ?" I asked confused

The doc snorted, "good job your hearings fine"

"Eh ???" I replied , sobbing internally but realising what the phrase " squaddie humour" really meant


Seriously I was gutted but also lucky, I could still join as a crab, to not be able to join at all must be a real sickener

What sort of ashma do you have , do you still have attacks ? Do you still need to see the doc for new prescriptions every month or so ?

Or, could you get another medical in another location and when the doc says , have you ever had ashma or a chest infection, could you perhaps ...lie ?
 
#11
How old are you? I had childhood asthma which cleared up when my balls dropped (they have honest!) I had to go for all sorts of extra tests but got the clearance in the end so I could join the regs. That was in the 80's though so I don't know if they take the time to bother with extra testing.
 
#12
I only found out i had asthma 10 year ago(22 yrs old).
But as i say i only use an inhaler every now and then!!
when i told the recruiting office he said there was no way around it. He just said asthma is asthma to them! from even the mildest form to the worst!! Just have to think of something else now!!
 
#13
Stuman

I suggest going to the docs and getting an appointment to read your notes

Find out when your last appointment was for asthma related things was

Or get you to the asthma clinic and do all the tests , maybe if you can blow a good VOmax etc they may tell you to stop wastnig the NHS' time and money
 

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#14
Worth trying all those tips but, if you have even mild Asthma now, and need an inhaler even once or twice a year, forget it. Sorry to be brutish, but it's one of the few things (Asthma, dicky ticker, epilepsy) that ring instant bells with MOs.

Definitely, definitely, try the Cadets. The are desperate for keen instructors - and it's very worthwhile stuff.
 
#15
Can only confirm what has been said here, the current ruling is that you must be "symptom free" of Asthma for 4 years to be eligble, it can be appealed however it is highly unlikely that it will be overturned, as a recruiter i see it every day and whilst it is a shame that even as regulars we lose lots of what i would say are quality applicants due to this, the fact is if you suffer with it, then ultimately you are a potential hazard not only to yourself (especially on operations) but also for your team mates (no-one really likes having to carry stretchers ;) ).
 
#16
I last 'suffered' Asthma about ten years ago - not needed inhaller since. I was cleared by the doctor on my medical if I promised not to blame him when I died.. Seriously though the reason explained to me is that the Army is seriously paranoid about asthma as they have been situations (ie assault courses etc, cold weather running, NBC etc) where people have died from it, yet not had attacks for years or were 'alright'. Once your signed off as fit thats what will be planned for, it will only endager yourself/others if you have an attack out of the blue in Afghanistan or somewhere where the air is 80% crap (try Hull)- or even just on ex. It's 'only the TA' but you get pushed to extremes and your body takes a fair bit of punishment from the activities - even mild asthma could be severley aggravated by it.

It's unlucky but just try to find something as rewarding - you gave it your best shot. :D

TA_s
 
#17
STUMANN73 said:
Well guys guess how annoyed i am now!!!!! Ive been turned down in the ta because i have asthma. Im so p**sed off with this. I only have very mild asthma which i only take medicine ever blue moon! I think this is such a balls reason. What do u guys think


Tips: Try again in a year or so and don't mention the asthma. Take deep beathing exercises before a medical. Carry medication.
I've seen PTI's gasping on Ventolin before now so this might not be the end.

Final tip though: wind yer neck in a bit.
 
#18
idlestab said:
STUMANN73 said:
Well guys guess how annoyed i am now!!!!! Ive been turned down in the ta because i have asthma. Im so p**sed off with this. I only have very mild asthma which i only take medicine ever blue moon! I think this is such a balls reason. What do u guys think


Tips: Try again in a year or so and don't mention the asthma. Take deep beathing exercises before a medical. Carry medication.
I've seen PTI's gasping on Ventolin before now so this might not be the end.

Final tip though: wind yer neck in a bit.
that is indeed the best advice. asthma isn't MUCH of a problem in the army -- certainly not as much as they would have you believe!

you need to be fairly 'asthma free' though. i.e. not have had an attack in YEARS. they would prefer a decade or more IIRC.

and the best advice is don't mention it.
 
#19
A decade or more?

its quite simple

4 years symptom free, even now if someone comes in and tells me they are symptom free of asthma and have been for 4 years, they are processed, however for safety's sake they have to complete an LFT (Lung function test) at the Recruit Selection centre prior to their medical.


Thats called an umbrella gents ;)

Oh and to tell someone to not admit to having had asthma is probably the worst thing in the world to do, i can see how through frustration that sort of advice can come out, however what happens if he does then have an attack, or more importanly they find out he lied about his medical condition.

Its called "Defect on enlistment" and its normally a discharge ;)

And all because he couldnt wait until he was symptom free, in which case seeing as there isnt an LFT for the TA he would get in ;)
 
#20
I was diagnosed with asthma after I had left (9 yrs) regular service and had joined the civvy police. It was only in my last 2 months of regualar service when I noticed 'breathing problems' However I passed the police medical and went onto dog handling and firearms duties for 15 years.

I suppose I was lucky in that it was diagnosed late although I have inhalers, i can only remember a few occasions when I really needed it.
I also joined the TA and served for nearly 3 years, so my asthma although diagnosed did not affect me that much.

REgards
 

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