Wet & cold?

#1
Now it seems that British troops will be out of Afghanistan in the not-too-distant future, assuming that our beloved government doesn't gift the stuff to the ANA to save on shipping costs, just how much use will the current batch of vehicles be back in UK/Europe?

OPSEC notwithstanding, just a question from an Old'n'bold, but would you fancy trolling around Tidworth for example in a Jackal in winter?
 

Grumblegrunt

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Book Reviewer
#2
we we did it in recce rovers so why cant they in jackals or do they not have that screen heater pipe you can pull off?

to be fair despite the fiasco from what I can see and have heard the new gear will work pretty much anywhere but I bet we fail to use it properly and go back to 4 tonners and landys unless due to deploy. too much cost and tech to leave behind to a bunch of illiterate peasants, not that the yanks would want them anyway.

as to how much we leave it depends on how fast we are running away compared to the soviets and just how knackered the kit is. The marines are still looking for a buyer for all those up armoured hummers they pulled out of iraq but they arent redeploying them because they arent ied proof apparently.

Fuel costs might be a deciding factor, if the tories keep going the way they are the next war will be fought in KIA CEEDs as they dont make the metro anymore :)
 

jim24

LE
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#3
FFS you f@cking pansy squaddys, try trolling around Saltau in a Mk1 Ferret in January, a Jackel in Tidworth ,Luxury
 
#4
See plenty of yeomanry units driving about in open landies hail rain or shine. And I'm sure the ing units might like them for recce or spt coys after all old rather be cold and wet than cold and wet wither sore feet.
 
#5
we we did it in recce rovers so why cant they in jackals or do they not have that screen heater pipe you can pull off?

to be fair despite the fiasco from what I can see and have heard the new gear will work pretty much anywhere but I bet we fail to use it properly and go back to 4 tonners and landys unless due to deploy. too much cost and tech to leave behind to a bunch of illiterate peasants, not that the yanks would want them anyway.

as to how much we leave it depends on how fast we are running away compared to the soviets and just how knackered the kit is. The marines are still looking for a buyer for all those up armoured hummers they pulled out of iraq but they arent redeploying them because they arent ied proof apparently.

Fuel costs might be a deciding factor, if the tories keep going the way they are the next war will be fought in KIA CEEDs as they dont make the metro anymore :)
Don't put anything past 'em! Wasn't there a very brief period in Basrah where they had everyone driving round in Mitsubishi SUVs?
 
#6
Ahh yes, fond memories of the old ferret: Smashing me watch using the forwards reverse lever (and chipping me elbow); Almost breaking something in me knee when the gear change pedal suddenly tries to come back and hit me in the nackers; And yes, my ferret would do in excess of an indicated 60 mph; But the adrenaline assisted brakes left a lot to be desired; Dead flies, blackbirds smacking you in the face in summer, frostbitten ears and nose in the winter; Red hot .50 cal cases down the back of yer shirt on the ranges ....... Memories ......
 

jim24

LE
Book Reviewer
#7
Ahh yes, fond memories of the old ferret: Smashing me watch using the forwards reverse lever (and chipping me elbow); Almost breaking something in me knee when the gear change pedal suddenly tries to come back and hit me in the nackers; And yes, my ferret would do in excess of an indicated 60 mph; But the adrenaline assisted brakes left a lot to be desired; Dead flies, blackbirds smacking you in the face in summer, frostbitten ears and nose in the winter; Red hot .50 cal cases down the back of yer shirt on the ranges ....... Memories ......
50.cal ?????? FFS mine had a BREN gun, I thought the Mk 2 was Luxury and that still only had a .30 L2A1
 
#8
Ferret, German winter, luxury, I used to dream of driving a Ferret, Ferrets were for puffs......

.........having made the mistake of getting a stacker truck licence I once got shafted to drive the Eager Beaver from Celle to Lippstadt in the cold snap winter which wouldn't end, 1986. -27 degrees heavy snow and bald tires........
 
#9
Now it seems that British troops will be out of Afghanistan in the not-too-distant future, assuming that our beloved government doesn't gift the stuff to the ANA to save on shipping costs, just how much use will the current batch of vehicles be back in UK/Europe?

OPSEC notwithstanding, just a question from an Old'n'bold, but would you fancy trolling around Tidworth for example in a Jackal in winter?
How do you think people train for a summer tour in Afghanistan? By doing their MST on the Plain in the winter!
 

Alsacien

MIA
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#10
Now it seems that British troops will be out of Afghanistan in the not-too-distant future, assuming that our beloved government doesn't gift the stuff to the ANA to save on shipping costs, just how much use will the current batch of vehicles be back in UK/Europe?

OPSEC notwithstanding, just a question from an Old'n'bold, but would you fancy trolling around Tidworth for example in a Jackal in winter?
They will probably flog it all to the Afgans before they leave.
That will save the two and half million per vehicle cost of fitting a heating system, tyres that work, engine mods etc etc.... or they may mothball them.

You can be sure that only the absolute cheapest solution will suffice for our military.
 
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bokkatankie

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#11
50.cal ?????? FFS mine had a BREN gun, I thought the Mk 2 was Luxury and that still only had a .30 L2A1
You are correct, Ferret never had .50, only .30.

.50 would have knocked it over!!!

My .30 was date stamped 1919 had a cloth belt and was about as accurate as a Bank of England economic forecast!
 

jim24

LE
Book Reviewer
#14
You are correct, Ferret never had .50, only .30.

.50 would have knocked it over!!!

My .30 was date stamped 1919 had a cloth belt and was about as accurate as a Bank of England economic forecast!
That was probable because it's full name was the Browning .30 calibre M1919 A4, L1A1/L1A2 Medium Machine gun, the L1A1/A2 in fact had an improved oil Buffer than the original American Gun
 
#15
Nobody mentioned hatch rash on Ferret! lose your bleeding fingers if you were'nt quick.
 
#16
Nobody mentioned hatch rash on Ferret! lose your bleeding fingers if you were'nt quick.
Hatch, hatch? They let you have a turret? You lucky, lucky barsteward! ;-)The only Ferret with a turret we had we stole off Catlemartin Ranges, I think it had been left there by tropper in 1966. :-D
 
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bokkatankie

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#18
The hatch rash was not the turret but those useless side hatches for the driver, you were meant to punch the handle to shut them but inevitably you ended up getting your fingers well and truly mashed.
 
#20
We called it Ferret finger, couple of guys in the sqn were Dave Allen lookalikes with missing finger tips from engine hatches and the like. I must admit the heating system wasn't up to much. Did anyone mange to get the add on perspex windsreen to fit properly?
 

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