Westboro Baptist Church petitioned as a hate group

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we petition the obama administration to:
Legally recognize Westboro Baptist Church as a hate group.

This group has been recognized as a hate group by organizations, such as The Southern Poverty Law Center, and has repeatedly displayed the actions typical of hate groups.

Their actions have been directed at many groups, including homosexuals, military, Jewish people and even other Christians. They pose a threat to the welfare and treatment of others and will not improve without some form of imposed regulation.
Created: Dec 14, 2012

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...e-westboro-baptist-church-hate-group/DYf3pH2d


As of this writing, 17 Dec 2012, there are over 165,000 signatures.
 
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Assuming that they are thus classified, would it make any difference to their ability to conduct their affairs, for example allow County/City govts to prohibit their antics without getting sued?
 
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Assuming that they are thus classified, would it make any difference to their ability to conduct their affairs, for example allow County/City govts to prohibit their antics without getting sued?
A few things could happen. Being as they classify themselves as a church, they enjoy tax exempt status. That they lose that status would be a start.

They would still be able to demonstrate and be the insidious evil bastards they are, just without the tax breaks.
 
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A good example of what happens when Religion makes the crossover from a mild irritant, to a mutated virus.
 
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I love their website.

God Hates the world according to them.

Every country, in detail. I loved the bit about Saudi, where the country profile had a photoshopped woman in-front of the Ka'ba with a sign saying "Every time a Muslim dies, Jesus laughs".

http://www.godhatesfags.com/

Subtle.

How people get that warped I don't know. Oh wait, yes I do. It's called religion.

I see they have a "god sent the shooter" page now. I think they'd better be careful in the wake of that mass shooting. Might be a touchy subject.
 
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The Constitution basically guarantees absolute free speech. What they don't seem to get, is that it doesn't make it compulsory.
 

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I suspect only US Citizens can sign up. But I'm happy to call them cnuts to their faces if it will help.
 
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Vile, vile people. I don't like Louis Theroux ( l"look at me, aren't I clever! I'm pretending to be simple!") but his expose of this bunch required very little from him, to show them in their true colours. ( colors?)
 
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I like their 'Number Crunching' sidebar on their website. Ends with:

"0 - nanoseconds of sleep that WBC members lose over your opinions and feeeeellllliiiiiings."
 
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The trouble with this is that the ban would give them a certain "status" among the rest of the nutters and eventually lead to some sort of court case where they could promote their twisted ideology.
 

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a good example that generally speaking, religion is an evil force and does more harm than good...
Somebody got Richard Dawkins book in a jumble sale recently. It's not a good example, it's not even a piss poor example. Comparing these card carrying Retards to a Religion is ridiculous. They're a "Church" for tax reasons, they think it gives legitimacy to their ravings ... Oh and they're drawing pictures with their own feces stark raving gibbering mad.
 

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Really? Religion has killed more people than national Socialism, Communism or any other ideology. If it's not killing other religions it's killing your own in the guise of rooting out heresy.
 
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Really? Religion has killed more people than national Socialism, Communism or any other ideology. If it's not killing other religions it's killing your own in the guise of rooting out heresy.
No - religion has not killed anyone.

Extremists using religion as an excuse for their behaviours - yes.
 
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I see they have a "god sent the shooter" page now. I think they'd better be careful in the wake of that mass shooting. Might be a touchy subject.
I think not. Firstly there's the noble fundamentals of 5th Amendment.

Then there are tens of millions of Septic Evangelicals intensely aware that their own attitudes to Homo's, baby killing Hussies and the inexorable triumphant march of messy amoral American modernity are not so far from the outrageous posturing of Phelp's little clan.

The Good News that God hates fags may not feature much in scripture but it's a powerful call to self righteousness amongst the idolatrous consumers, epic serial adulterers and grasping petty usurers that cram the mega-Churches in need of alien (and often rather familiar) sinners to judge. An absolute denial of reproductive freedom to the weaker vessels is often a close second. Where they part company with Phelps is not on a Jealous God raining his punishment down of the cities of the plain but on the matter of their other secular faith of zealous WASP patriotism, with host of saintly omniscient Founders. Many after all are Dispensationalists, not so much struggling with the beast within as Christians are meant to but always living in the End Times, eager for both The Rapture and a great global punishment of the unrighteous.
 

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No - religion has not killed anyone.

Extremists using religion as an excuse for their behaviours - yes.
You're labouring under the misapprehension that religious tolerance and friendship towards your fellow man are normal and not an aberration brought about by the development of civilsation in western culture. Murder and torture of people outside the local "normal" - against people "not like us" - is the general human default condition.
 
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All religionists should be incinerated. Simples.
 
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Religion hasn't killed any where near as many as those who have used 'Religion' as a tool to either kill others or kill those of that religion.

Nazi purges of Jews for example?

Most of the various crusades, inquisitions (there were many) and 'religious' fights were more about the money, prestige and land of the time.

To say Religion has killed so many is like saying football has killed/injured so many.

Did the Hillsboro dead die by football or by the actions of a bunch of cnuts who merely used football as a cover? The hooligans of that time followed clubs did they not, but had very little in common with true football club fans (or followers/beleivers/faithful).

It is a stupid arguement brought out to bash what the user have no intention of trying to understand, which is slightly ironic.

Groups of humans (or even other animals) can live side by side until one group has something the other wants. Be that money, milk/meat/hide or other wealth. Then the weaker side usually ends up disappointed.
 
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You're labouring under the misapprehension that religious tolerance and friendship towards your fellow man are normal and not an aberration brought about by the development of civilsation in western culture. Murder and torture of people outside the local "normal" - against people "not like us" - is the general human default condition.
You're labouring under a misapprehension if you think thats my pov. Basic Darwinism says otherwise. Selfish gene concept.

Religion per se has not killed anybody. You cannot touch religion; it has no physical reality and is entirely existential. You cannot be killed by something that does not exist, only the absence of something you need, such as air, water etc. Nobody has ever died of religion or its absence.

Millions have been killed by religious fanatics, but they are not religion.
 
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