Welsh Veterans Recognition Card.

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ALVIN

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#5
£5 million according to the beeb!
Considering that we have Peace, freedom and democracy in return, thanks to the British veteran, i would say that this is remarkable value for money.

Can you put a price on Peace, Freedom and Democracy ??
 
#6
Why should the fact that you are an ex serviceman give you any special privileges? Ten years spent stacking blankets and getting pissed gives you priority over everyone else?
 
#7
Why should the fact that you are an ex serviceman give you any special privileges? Ten years spent stacking blankets and getting pissed gives you priority over everyone else?
Agreed, I have visions of an ex-squaddie turning up in an A&E waving the card round expecting to be seen with nothing more than a blister. Clinical need is the most important.
 
#9
Agreed, I have visions of an ex-squaddie turning up in an A&E waving the card round expecting to be seen with nothing more than a blister. Clinical need is the most important.
Sure, but possession of a Veterans Card under this proposed scheme would not entitle the veteran to anything to which he or she is not already entitled - i.e. priority treatment for a service-related condition. Priority treatment for conditions attributable to service has been extensively discussed on ARRSE before, and there is a range of views about it: fairly operated, I support it.

Instead, possession of a card would make it easier for the patient to establish his or her basic status as a veteran. In principle there should be no great effect on Welsh NHS costs. Other aspects of this proposed scheme would have a cost to Welsh public services, but I was quite positive about it in an interview on Good Morning Wales yesterday morning.
 
#10
So, another socialist peccadillo funded by the English taxpayer. Like the Free prescriptions and free Uni access that the porridge wogs benefit from at our expense.
 
#13
So, another socialist peccadillo
.... which is proposed by the Welsh Conservatives. (Yup, there's an Assembly election on the way.) But I don't see the UK (England/Scotland/Wales/N.I) taxpayer's contribution being increased to cover this initiative, so the extra cost of the proposed scheme should only impact on the Welsh Assembly's budget.
 

elovabloke

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#14
Sure, but possession of a Veterans Card under this proposed scheme would not entitle the veteran to anything to which he or she is not already entitled - i.e. priority treatment for a service-related condition. Priority treatment for conditions attributable to service has been extensively discussed on ARRSE before, and there is a range of views about it: fairly operated, I support it.

Instead, possession of a card would make it easier for the patient to establish his or her basic status as a veteran. In principle there should be no great effect on Welsh NHS costs. Other aspects of this proposed scheme would have a cost to Welsh public services, but I was quite positive about it in an interview on Good Morning Wales yesterday morning.
Hackle it's not going to happen (well it might in Wales) I have letters from Mr Robathan stating it's not going to happen and he states this policy is supported by all of the important military charities.
 
#15
Hackle it's not going to happen (well it might in Wales) I have letters from Mr Robathan stating it's not going to happen and he states this policy is supported by all of the important military charities.
I think Mr Robathan has also said that in a ministerial answer.

The interesting thing about this Welsh Conservative idea is that the funding and concessions are within the gift of the Welsh Assembly.

The MoD have no say in the concessions EXCEPT (importantly) there would have to be some way of verifying service.

Another obvious question, as I have pointed out elsewhere, is how you define a "veteran" for the purposes of such a scheme. Other countries manage it, however.

Interesting that "all the important charities" are against the idea. Are they against the proposed concessions?

It would not be surprising if similar proposals come forward in the manifestos of various parties for the devolved government elections in May.
 
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Lechies

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#16
And whats it going to cost us?
Shouldn't cost you anything matey, I should imagine the amount of walking round you did at abergavenny ensured everyone in wales would recognise you, you wont need a card.
 
#18
So it is going to cost 5 m. Is there a Tory seat up for grabs in Wales then?
I cant think of any other reason that any government would want to blow that amount of money in these financially tight times if it didn't have a catch.
I get royally****ed off when I hear of all these provincial governments handing out wedges of cash that sideline the main contributors to their economies, i.e. the English taxpayer.
 

elovabloke

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#19
Interesting that "all the important charities" are against the idea. Are they against the proposed concessions?
They weren’t, he lied, even though cross party agreement had been reached and the MOD had announced the introduction of an ID card for Veterans one of our own has done a complete about turn and then blamed it on those charities under the cobseo umbrella. But this is all for another thread along with the lack of progress on service personnel and their families voting issues.
 

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