Well said Lord Boyce

#1
Yesterday in the Lords:

Lord Boyce: My Lords, the eloquence of previous speakers means that I do not need to add to the debate. However, I become more concerned every day about the disillusionment of our Armed Forces with higher management in defence. If this amendment is not followed through, I believe that that will cause the disillusionment to deepen further.

I certainly also believe that it is wrong for the message to go out to them that we are being threatened with the withdrawal of the Bill if we do not withdraw the amendment. Perhaps the Minister would like to say in his response to the amendment how he will transmit the message to the Armed Forces that the amendment has been turned down. Will he use the words, "This is a fair result"?
The amendment to the Armed Forces Compensation Bill was voted down.
 
#2
At last, perhaps, they will take note that the Armed Forces are at their lowest point for morale in living memory. Courtesy of the Dear Leader and his wish to become a world Statesman on the cheap.

Will anything be done? I think not!
 
#3
MrPVRd said:
Yesterday in the Lords:

Lord Boyce: My Lords, the eloquence of previous speakers means that I do not need to add to the debate. However, I become more concerned every day about the disillusionment of our Armed Forces with higher management in defence. If this amendment is not followed through, I believe that that will cause the disillusionment to deepen further.

I certainly also believe that it is wrong for the message to go out to them that we are being threatened with the withdrawal of the Bill if we do not withdraw the amendment. Perhaps the Minister would like to say in his response to the amendment how he will transmit the message to the Armed Forces that the amendment has been turned down. Will he use the words, "This is a fair result"?
The amendment to the Armed Forces Compensation Bill was voted down.
Translating this from polite Upper House language, that is strong stuff from such a senior officer so recently retired. Lord Boyce must be an Arrse member...
 
#4
MrPVRd said:
Yesterday in the Lords:

The amendment to the Armed Forces Compensation Bill was voted down.
PVR,

sorry a bit thick, what was the Bill for? was this the one saying, no dice for cash if injuried whilst on ops?
 
#5
The Bill was the Lords third reading of the Armed Forces Pension and Compensation Scheme bill which ,for new entrants:

1. Replaces the Immediate Pension (after 16 or 22 years service, rank-dependent) with an "income stream" of (initially) 50% the original value.

2. Raises the collection age of the "full" pension from 60 to 65 years.

3. Shifts the burden of proof on to the claimant, for compensation.

There are a few small plus points (mainly common engagements of 18 years for offrs and NCOs/ORs and death benefits for unmarried partners) but anyone joining the scheme is a fool, if they have a choice to remain in the old one! Incidentally, the "preserved pension" age (at which you claim your pension if you don't get an immediate one) will be raised from 60 to 65 for everyone, although they can't touch the contributions made before the swop date.
 
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Plastic Yank said:
thank god i'm out!
I hope your Partner and you are very happy together.

Who is Arthur and who is Martha?

:lol:
 

Goatman

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#9
hackle said:
The amendment to the Armed Forces Compensation Bill was voted down.
Translating this from polite Upper House language, that is strong stuff from such a senior officer so recently retired. Lord Boyce must be an Arrse member...[/quote]
:lol:

...Admiral Sir Michael Boyce....top bloke,used to work for him when he was 2SL.......CRACKLED with energy....used to ask his staff what all this at paragraph 17 on page 33 of the brief was supposed to mean ? [ shudder].


One of the reasons he and Buff Hoon didn't get on is that they were both squash players.... Boyce wiped the floor with him.

Nice to hear he is refusing to settle gracefully into dotage in the Lords...Go boss!
 

Goatman

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#10
Plastic Yank said:
Bravo_Bravo said:
Plastic Yank said:
thank god i'm out!
I hope your Partner and you are very happy together.

Who is Arthur and who is Martha?

:lol:
eh? :?

ON laborious mode/

Bravo2 took you to mean you had 'come out of the closet', a popular euphemism for affirming the plaintiff's homosexuality, M'Lud.

He further inquires which of you takes the dominant role eg putting up shelves, taking the gash out, answering the door to Jehovah's Witnesses, paying ALL the goddam BILLS etc etc

laborious mode OFF /

BTW, PY, I got round the USMCM in 4hrs29. Hot, hilly, exhausting. The words
' I am NEVER doing this again' were audible.... :wink:


Le Chevre
 
#11
god, how drole,

sorry BB & Goatdude must forgive thick infantry type!

Goat, well done that man! cheque in the post!
 

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