Well, It had to Come Eventually, Didnt It

#1
The postal regulator wants to part privatise the Royal Mail.

Link.


I have a better idea. Keep mail delivery as a state utility and take away the licences to the mail companies. It wasn't broke before they were invited in to cherry pick what services they wanted to replicate but should be stopped before it is fixed totally in their favour.
 
#2
Sven said:
The postal regulator wants to part privatise the Royal Mail.

Link.


I have a better idea. Keep mail delivery as a state utility and take away the licences to the mail companies. It wasn't broke before they were invited in to cherry pick what services they wanted to replicate but should be stopped before it is fixed totally in their favour.
Good God. I find myself in agreement with Sven!

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#3
About feckin' time too the time wasting, money grubbing lazy arrsed feckers. Don't part privatise them, privatise them completely and make them work for a living and compete like everybody else has to. They were good once, something to be proud of, now they're just a burden.
 
#4
In agreement with Sven , Don't privatise the Post Office, an organisation once the envy of the civilised world...

.....Privatise the Management, and stop closing sub-post offices.
 

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#5
PTP, you feel strongly about it then
 
#6
'kin hell I too agree with sven, but then a broken watch is still right twice a day.

Put it back to how it was a leave it well alone.
 
#7
Royal Mail is a rubbish company. Moaning that competitors steal business is ludicrous. It's not the competitors - it's that Royal Mail lacks any business direction.

Go into a post office. You can't photocopy any of the documents you need to urgently send out. You can't even buy a decent envelope or stationery to put them in. But you can buy flight socks and covers for MP3 players that Argos stopped selling 5 years earlier.

I'd buy it, restructure it, issue deodorant to its staff, and turn it into a fine company Britain could be proud of.
 
#8
Concur with SVEN and PTP too.

This is turning out to be a strange day. :)
 
#9
Tazzers said:
About feckin' time too the time wasting, money grubbing lazy arrsed feckers. Don't part privatise them, privatise them completely and make them work for a living and compete like everybody else has to. They were good once, something to be proud of, now they're just a burden.
What do You think the result of privatisation (part or complete) will be? Loss of most of our post offices, standardised letter costs out of the window with huge increases.

Also, the Royal mail 'was good' when they were a service provided by the government, not when they were a private company. Splitting Post Offices from the Royal Mail,forcing people to place their pensions into bank accounts, reducing the state funds and taking away such things as being able to pay the TV licence there have all done the part to reduce the royal Mails effectiveness
 

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#10
What the hell has happened to the real Sven? People are agreeing with him on this site including me! Maybe we should report suspected foul play to the police in his area...
 
#11
Very strongly OFaH.

The problems of the Post Office lie in a weak and ineffectual management ticking off their chufft charts to bonus/golden parachute days.

It's a joke, and the Government's constant water boarding where the Post Office itself doesn't know where it will be this time next week, has not helped in the slightest.

Bring in a new private management team with a simple brief, get this workining as an organisation again without selling off the family silver.

If postal prices have to go up another .5p to pay for it, so be it. Rather have an inexpensive and reliable service, then see the Royal Mail reduced to a pitiful shadow of it's former self, with it's Gold and Platinum banded assets sold off, in an insane drive to turn it into little more than another courier company.

The Royal Mail should be positioning itself, through aggressive pricing and branding to be the world's best postal and courier service.

I often wonder why Royal Mail doesn't base itself internationally, in a 'courier' guise. The "Royal" cachet would be a big draw , especially backed by a reputation for reliabilty, in markets like India, Russia and China.
 
#12
Trans-sane said:
What the hell has happened to the real Sven? People are agreeing with him on this site including me! Maybe we should report suspected foul play to the police in his area...
He's still trolling on other threads though.

Privatise any company and you generally will get less out of it. Some of the money coming in goes to shareholders so there is obviously less to spend on the less profit making elements, hence they are cut. That is exactly what will happen here if they sell it off.
 
#13
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Stay on thread please Gents.
 
#14
State controlled monopoly versus profit orientented private companies?

Which gives you more for your money?

In 99% of cases the private company is a customers best bet unless you wish to pay twice for the same services (tax and over the counter costs).
 
#15
Steven said:
State controlled monopoly versus profit orientented private companies?

Which gives you more for your money?

In 99% of cases the private company is a customers best bet unless you wish to pay twice for the same services (tax and over the counter costs).
And the one percent is the royal mail, Not many private companies will send a letter to the other side of the country for the price of a first class stamp. It one of the few cases where a monoploy is good for the country.
 
#16
For the first time in 3 years I also agree with Sven.
But I would do away with 2nd post delivery and stop delivery and collections on a Saturday. This is what happens here in Hungary and the post and post offices are excellent. I am happy with 2 days mail to and from UK. Can still pay all my bills etc., at the local village PO. They have kept 'old world' customs that work and incorporated [ie., Lottery Tickets]
new practices that work. Even got an old but educated crone sitting in the corner who will fill in your forms for you free FFS.
 
#17
Steven said:
State controlled monopoly versus profit orientented private companies?

Which gives you more for your money?

In 99% of cases the private company is a customers best bet unless you wish to pay twice for the same services (tax and over the counter costs).
I agree with what you are saying but the problem is with a private company only profitable services will be maintained. Therefore remoter locations lose their services. A subsidised, government owned, service will maintain it everywhere. I'm personally in favour of the government owning the railways and the post office.

The railways have been privatised, we still subsidise private companies profits ,and they are sh1t and expensive.

I can Travel from north of Amsterdam to The Hague for 12 euros on clean efficient and pretty much on time trains. How much is a train from London to Birmingham?

Privatisiation in these cases is just wrong and doesn't take a genius to figure that out, so why are these fcukwits suggesting it? Something in it for them I suspect.
 
#18
whyohwhy said:
Go into a post office. You can't photocopy any of the documents you need to urgently send out. You can't even buy a decent envelope or stationery to put them in. But you can buy flight socks and covers for MP3 players that Argos stopped selling 5 years earlier.

My local Post Office on my last venture in there hasnt even got the poor quality envelopes, mp3 covers or socks for sale any more, it simply has a counter to do whatever it is they're meant to do back there.

Conversely I went in to the newagents next door to find a pretty good range of stationary, cards and stamps and they wonder why the Post Office isnt doing too well since our branch was taken over by the new guys earlier in the year.

Last year ours was one of a few saved from closure in the area simply because it was so successful (by P.O standards) god help it this time around, as now instead of cards, stationary and 'stuff' there is empty space and a rack of Post Office financial services leaflets.
 
#19
What do You think the result of privatisation (part or complete) will be? Loss of most of our post offices, standardised letter costs out of the window with huge increases.
Where have you been lately? They are already in the proccess of closing down all the post offices, its going to happen with or without privatisation. Thats 'your' sorry our government for you. More tax, more tax, more tax (but lets not call it tax), a bit more tax here, a bit more tax there. Inflation above the level of the average payrise so my bills are going up and so are all my other outgoing expenses and so far Sven I don't see any improvement in services. All I see is PfPs that will cost me far more than they need to in the long term and .................erm................oh, there's an example, endless rounds of post office closures and pile upon pile of junk mail that the council will fine me for if I overfill my bin by a couple of inches.
 
#20
I suppose you could get out altogether Tazzers, a lot of people have. 20 thousand ex pat Brits here in The Hague alone. That's an awful lot of money that's been scared off.
 

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