Well I never knew that.....

scaryspice

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#1
Happened to catch (by mistake honest, I was just channel hopping) two minutes of "SAS Secrets" or (some such inspiring title) tonight on Beeb 2 in which SSgt Eddy thingymebob told an attentive audience of SAS selectees (as recreated for TV...) that CEFO stood for "Central European Fighting Order"!!!

So presumably there's a WEFO for wearing in the UK and a MEFO for Iraq then is there.....

Nearly pissed myself laughing. :lol:

Seriously though does anyone take this "TV SAS" stuff seriously - doesn't it give the "real thing" a bad name.

Not that I want to claim the slightest connection with anything SF I hasten to add..... before anyone connects me by mistake with anyone who I'm not......

No I'm not really.



Really.



Honest.



Scary
 
#2
:lol:

I think it's for those Gareth Keenan (Office) types, who can kill with a single blow to the co*k. I watched the first 5 minutes...then turned over before a k'd the TV. Still not as bad as those who by the videos for £30 and pray to the god of Eddie Stoned.

Well we all like to bitch at war movies, just another chance to practice your criticing at home. :D
 
#3
....ah bugger! Someone can critique my bloody spelling and grammer too.
:oops: Many apologies.
 

scaryspice

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#4
DK

Tell me there isn't really a video.....

These people must be raking it in.
 
#5
I'm about the same age as Eddie Stone so we probably did our initial training say, 25-28 years ago.

I can assure you that the standard Infantry fighting order as per all the Brecon courses I did was in fact called CEFO and Eddies statement is quite correct if not a little out of date! Probably something to do with the Cold War. The only other fighting order I was ever to need was in the jungle which has quite different kit requirement.

Scary:

I do not know or have never met Eddie Stone but I would bet my b*ll*cks that he has done more soldiering that me or you (if you are indeed a soldier). Like many specialists he has probably found that there is no place for him in the real world so he has found a niche in the word of creating sh*te programmes for the wannabes out there. Good luck to him I say, more power to his Hard B*stard elbow!!
 
#6
beefer said:
I can assure you that the standard Infantry fighting order as per all the Brecon courses I did was in fact called CEFO and Eddies statement is quite correct if not a little out of date!
You are therefore as much of a loon as Mr Stone.

C.E.F.O.

Combat
Equipment
Fighting
Order


TTFN

BFG
 
#7
I think Scary meant that the reference to CEFO as Central European Fighting Order was wrong; in fact it is Combat Equipment Fighting Order, as opposed to CEMO - Combat Equipment Marching Order.
 

scaryspice

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#8
Beefer

Of course I know CEFO is the correct term (yes, actually I am a soldier - although "only" a STAB) I was, as VB says, poking fun at the "Central Euroepan" bit......

As for Mr Stone - actually I think he's done very well for himself and as you say - lots of luck to him. I'm quite certain he's done far more "hard stuff" than I ever have or ever will. I just find these programmes a bit tragic. On the particular one in question, the "re-creation" of the SAS selection was all done to make it look as though they'd actually filmed selection, when clearly it was a "faked for TV" recosntruction. All the ex-SAS guys were dressed up as though still serving and referred to by rank as though still serving - makes it look a bit silly really and in my opinion cheapens what they really once stood for.

Please don't take this to indicate that I do not respect what these guys have done in the past. I most certainly do.

Scary
 

X-Inf

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#9
BFG9000 said:
beefer said:
I can assure you that the standard Infantry fighting order as per all the Brecon courses I did was in fact called CEFO and Eddies statement is quite correct if not a little out of date!
You are therefore as much of a loon as Mr Stone.

C.E.F.O.

Combat
Equipment
Fighting
Order


TTFN

BFG
BFG9000 :oops:

be careful who you call a loon until you check your facts.

It is Complete Equipment Fighting Order (CEFO) or CEMO Complete Equipment Marching Order. Always has been - never changed. Local varieties are attributed purely to those who use them.

X-Inf
 

X-Inf

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#10
ViroBono said:
I think Scary meant that the reference to CEFO as Central European Fighting Order was wrong; in fact it is Combat Equipment Fighting Order, as opposed to CEMO - Combat Equipment Marching Order.
VB - check my post re BFG9000 :!:
 
#11
scaryspice said:
Seriously though does anyone take this "TV SAS" stuff seriously - doesn't it give the "real thing" a bad name.
I took it seriously. I went out and purchased a HK MP5 BB gun, mail order fire retardant coveralls, body armour from eBay (and dyed the cover black) and a second hand S10 respirator from the Army and Navy surplus store. The Police confiscated the BB gun, and the local pub land lord has warned me about crashing through the games room doors and rolling up to the jackpot machine shouting 'Go, Go Go !!', but on the whole, it's changed my life completely. I feel liberated. Thank you Eddie.
 
#12
X-Inf said:
be careful who you call a loon until you check your facts.
I stand by my statement.

Combat or Complete - doesn't make beefer any less of a loon!






Only makes me more of one.
Well Spotted.


TTFN

BFG
 

scaryspice

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#13
Gunny

Y' know the sad part is that there are people who might really have done that - probably with a plastic MP5 though.

I didn't spot that "combat" "complete" confusion - sorry guys - but at least you knew it wasn't central european - ho, ho.

Scary

Now firmly shutting up on "infantry" subjects.
 
#17
Have only known it as "Combat" :D

Going slightly off thread, can anyone tell me why every DS I've ever met uses "pneumonic" instead of "mnemonic"?
 
#18
scaryspice said:
Gunny

Y' know the sad part is that there are people who might really have done that - probably with a plastic MP5 though.
Probably? What are you on about? The MP5 was made of plastic, it was just a ball bearing gun. The metal one's are too expensive.

There's nothing sad in it, just like saying your sad if you spend to much time on ARRSE. I'm watching 'Who Dares Wins' right now. Lewis Collins is great !
 
#19
Arkanstigger said:
Going slightly off thread, can anyone tell me why every DS I've ever met uses "pneumonic" instead of "mnemonic"?
You're not listening properly - they probably have mneumonia
 

scaryspice

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#20
Gunny Highway said:
scaryspice said:
Gunny

Y' know the sad part is that there are people who might really have done that - probably with a plastic MP5 though.
Probably? What are you on about? The MP5 was made of plastic, it was just a ball bearing gun. The metal one's are too expensive.

There's nothing sad in it, just like saying your sad if you spend to much time on ARRSE. I'm watching 'Who Dares Wins' right now. Lewis Collins is great !
Gunny

I meant plastic as in "pretend plastic gun"

Nothing wrong with watching Who Dares Wins! I suppose it was the whole "wannabe" "faked for TV" thing that I find a bit weird. However, each to their own - have you seen "I'm a nonentity get me out of here?" Now there's TV to make you want to throw soft food at the screen.....

Scary
 

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