Well Done Tony!Youve made us proud to be British again.....

#1
So El Presidente Tony Bliar has once again put his foot i it by saying that he wont give up long haul holidays to help save the environment.
I suppose that when you're 'friends' offer you the use of their luxury villa it'd be rude to refuse their kind jesture,Besides,it's only the planet.....


Tony Blair has been criticised by one of his own advisers for a "complete failure to lead" on climate change after he said he would not give up long-haul holiday flights to help save the environment.

Despite his important role in raising the profile of global warming on the international stage, Mr Blair's leadership in the UK has been "patchy and muddle-headed" on the issue, said Jonathon Porritt, chairman of the Government's Sustainable Development Commission.

But Mr Blair was defended by
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Environment Secretary David Miliband, who insisted that for the Prime Minister to deny himself foreign holidays would be no more than "gesture politics".

Mr Blair was subject to a hail of criticism from environmentalists after suggesting that the key to cutting greenhouse gas emissions from aviation was scientific innovation, not persuading people to fly less.

In an interview broadcast by Sky News, Mr Blair said: "I personally think these things are a bit impractical, actually to expect people to do that.

"I think that what we need to do is to look at how you make air travel more energy efficient, how you develop the new fuels that will allow us to burn less energy and emit less."

Fresh from a winter break in Miami, the PM rejected the idea that he should set a personal example by taking breaks closer to home, and cautioned against setting people "unrealistic targets" or ending cheap air travel.

"You know, I'm still waiting for the first politician who's actually running for office who's going to come out and say it - and they're not," he said. "It's like telling people you shouldn't drive anywhere."

Mr Porritt said the PM was "completely wrong" to suggest that scientists can be relied on to find a painless solution to global warming and to think that voters are unwilling to change their own behaviour if they are given a clear lead.

Greenpeace said Mr Blair was taking the "delusional" position of "crossing his fingers and hoping someone will invent aeroplanes that don't cause climate change".


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/09012007/344/pm-rapped-long-haul-breaks.html

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/green/story/0,,1985981,00.html
 

Alsacien

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#3
This sounds like the Bush style comments on emissions in the US.......pass the buck to technology - or more importantly, the future when its someone elses problem.
 
#4
Spike - Can I assume that you will not be travelling anywhere by air in the future, in an effort to save the planet ?
 
#5
Billy Liar said:
"You know, I'm still waiting for the first politician who's actually running for office who's going to come out and say it - and they're not," he said. "It's like telling people you shouldn't drive anywhere."
But surely getting people not to drive is precisely what Neu Arbeit propose to do, by taxing motorists until they can't afford to drive anywhere.

I can't see Labour introducing a 'freeloaders tax' anytime soon.
 
#6
Am I missing something here? Is everyone here saying that they will never go on holiday again by airplane? I am all for slagging the leadership, but please stop with the hypocrisy. If you won an all expenses paid trip to Florida, you would be there quicker than sh*t of a shovel. Likewise, if you had a mate out there offering free accom etc, same would apply I am sure.
 
#7
floppyjocky said:
Spike - Can I assume that you will not be travelling anywhere by air in the future, in an effort to save the planet ?
On my wages I can just about afford bus fare!!!
But I believe the point is that bLair has again angered people with his 'I'm holier than thou' attitude.With all the Liebour speeches & tax hikes to force the country to 'go green',use public transport ect,he's shown his double standards again.
 
#8
The Labour governemnt is supposed to be a socialist style 'peoples' party.

All I can see is their close link to a dictator style fascist movement with an utter disregard for the working class.

Enough said
 
#9
Well made point there Spike!

They've just introduced a 'green' tax for flying, they are going to introduce a 'green' tax for the miles you drive on the roads. It was quoted in the beeb as 'Gordon Brown Tackles Climate Change with Tax!' (I may be one or two words out, but not much).

Then good ol' boy TB comes out and says that 'well, you know, kind of, really, sort of, everyone has to, you know, sort of get around, don't they, sort of thing, I mean it's not really in a kind of way (cheesy grin) sort of going to stop the er (pregnant pause for effect) people, you know, voters, kind of from er, driving around, is it (pause), they've still got to (smile) get to, you know, like work and er stuff!'

So what he's actualy saying, kind of, is that the tax on emissions and travel is not actually, er, supposed to be a deterrent, or at least it sure as hell won't be for him.

What prey tell is the tax fr then, if not a deterrent? Or is he simply doing a good job of undermining Tax-em-til-they-squeek-Gordo?
 
#11
paveway_3 said:
Who gives a toss,he may be a dick but he is still the prime minister.Do you expect him to go the Butlins on holiday?
Funnily enough I expect the lying cnut to go where he is supposed to go, and where tax payers have already stumped up the money: Chequers.

This fantastic country house was given to the nation in order to give the Prime Minister of the day somewhere to holiday and escape the stress of 10 Downing Street, while at the same time removing any possibility of being accused of cronyism or being in debt to some character. While at Chequers the cnut and his demon spawn of a family get fed, protected and entertained at our cost (I say 'our', even though I am clever enough to no longer have to pay UK taxes).

No cost of flights, no cost of flying over 10 security guards, no possible way of accusing the PM of accepting favours in return for influence over policy. The problem is that BLair and his family are scum and they hate the UK.
 
#12
paveway_3 said:
Who gives a toss,he may be a dick but he is still the prime minister.Do you expect him to go the Butlins on holiday?
I agree. Tony Blair is many things. A liar, a cnut etc. etc. But he's also Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This could quite possibly be the hardest job in the country. And for what he does, the effect on his quality of life (bad), he at least deserves a holiday in a desent place. It's my opinion he (well, the Prime Minister) should also be payed more to. And have all the other benefits you think the countries 2ic (after the queen) should have (decent cars, free-bies, privilidges etc).

Dread said:
The problem is that BLair and his family are scum and they hate the UK.
Now that's a bone comment; I dont know them well enough to designate if they are 'scum' or not, but, i'm pretty sure the Prime Minister doesn't 'hate the UK'.....!!!!!!
 
#13
julescolt_uk said:
paveway_3 said:
Who gives a toss,he may be a dick but he is still the prime minister.Do you expect him to go the Butlins on holiday?
I agree. Tony Blair is many things. A liar, a cnut etc. etc. But he's also Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This could quite possibly be the hardest job in the country. And for what he does, the effect on his quality of life (bad), he at least deserves a holiday in a desent place. It's my opinion he (well, the Prime Minister) should also be payed more to. And have all the other benefits you think the countries 2ic (after the queen) should have (decent cars, free-bies, privilidges etc).

Dread said:
The problem is that BLair and his family are scum and they hate the UK.
Now that's a bone comment; I dont know them well enough to designate if they are 'scum' or not, but, i'm pretty sure the Prime Minister doesn't 'hate the UK'.....!!!!!!

No him and his ******* parasite family and friends milk it dry for everything they can get! Love the country lets see how long they remain here once he's been prised out the office
 
#14
julescolt_uk said:
Tony Blair is many things. A liar, a cnut etc. etc. But he's also Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. This could quite possibly be the hardest job in the country. And for what he does, the effect on his quality of life (bad), he at least deserves a holiday in a desent place. It's my opinion he (well, the Prime Minister) should also be payed more to. And have all the other benefits you think the countries 2ic (after the queen) should have (decent cars, free-bies, privilidges etc).
I'm not going to rise to it. All I'm going to say is - I expect his job is a damn sight easier than that of a young soldier/marine in Afghanistan at the minute.
 

elovabloke

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#15
paveway_3 said:
Who gives a toss,he may be a dick but he is still the prime minister.Do you expect him to go the Butlins on holiday?
No the people who go to Butlins are normally decent, honest hard working folk.
 
#16
julescolt_uk said:
Dread said:
The problem is that BLair and his family are scum and they hate the UK.
Now that's a bone comment; I dont know them well enough to designate if they are 'scum' or not, but, i'm pretty sure the Prime Minister doesn't 'hate the UK'.....!!!!!!
Actually it is you that has made the 'bone' comment. BLiar has done more than any other leader in 300 years to destroy the UK. He has made it probable that in the very year of the tercentienery of the Acts of Union, that the SNP will call for, and win, a referendum in Scotland for full independence.

In England he and his pet monkey Prescott have created the Regional Assemblies following the EU approved policy (but one never approved by the English, or even the British electorate). When they yielded to immense pressure and had a referendum in the NE (a pure Labour stronghold) they got an absulute kicking. Did they dissolve the NE Regional Assembly? Did they dissolve all the other Regional Assemblies? Did they effing bunnies! These unelected quangos continue to grasp tax payers money and cast another layer of suffocating bureaucracy on the populace and economy.

What does BLair want? He wants to be Head of State, as evidenced by his 'presidential' way of doing business. He is just clever enough (he was always a cr@p lawyer BTW) to realise that the Queen is more popular than he will ever be, and if he tried abolishing the Monarchy the Army would slot him. So what can he be? Ahhhhh yes. President of Europe has a nice ring to it...
 
#17
Lets put this into perspective. All the flights that occur around the world contribute 1% of the global carbon emmissions. He would be doing more damage to the environment if he owned a heard of cattle!!
 

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#18
drain_sniffer said:
Lets put this into perspective. All the flights that occur around the world contribute 1% of the global carbon emmissions. He would be doing more damage to the environment if he owned a heard of cattle!!
Let me be the first to jump in and say that he does - hundreds of 'em they sit in Westmister, and are frankly less use than cows.
 
#19
julescolt_uk you must be a thick * if you think Bliar or the wicked witch are pro British. Just tell me one thing he has done which is pro British. He has broken up the UK, handed over Northern Ireland to the terrorists, given most of our rights away to europe, allowed the country to be over run by people from all over the world, except of course our real friends from the Commonwealth, disbanded umteen regiments, starved the Armed Forces of money, kit, spares, while at the same time getting them involved in more and more wars which have fcuk all to do with us. We can't even defend our own country, why get involved with someone elses war. Thats not to say the lads, including my son are not doing a good job, they are, but they shouldn't be fighting two wars on behalf of the Bush Oil Industry. Bliar is a cnut and a traitor and I hope someday he will be hauled before a court to answer for his crimes and his treachery.
 
#20
siggie47 said:
julescolt_uk you must be a thick cnut if you think Bliar or the wicked witch are pro British. Just tell me one thing he has done which is pro British. He has broken up the UK, handed over Northern Ireland to the terrorists, given most of our rights away to europe, allowed the country to be over run by people from all over the world, except of course our real friends from the Commonwealth, disbanded umteen regiments, starved the Armed Forces of money, kit, spares, while at the same time getting them involved in more and more wars which have fcuk all to do with us. We can't even defend our own country, why get involved with someone elses war. Thats not to say the lads, including my son are not doing a good job, they are, but they shouldn't be fighting two wars on behalf of the Bush Oil Industry. Bliar is a cnut and a traitor and I hope someday he will be hauled before a court to answer for his crimes and his treachery.
The wicked witch?? 8O
 

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