Well done Kent Constabulary

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by msr, Sep 30, 2008.

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  1. msr

    msr LE

    *******. You wonder why you are losing the support of the public?

    They must have known he was a troublemaker the moment they saw him.

    With his white hair, wax jacket and glasses, 78-year-old Philip Clarkson Webb clearly ticked all the boxes any eagle-eyed policemen would mark as 'danger'.

    And as he shuffled along the pavement towards them there was one thing above all they deemed to pose a threat - his walking stick.

    The officers surrounded the retired classics teacher and informed him the 3ft wooden cane was an 'offensive weapon' and had to be confiscated.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1064338/Police-confiscate-walking-stick-retired-teacher-78-offensive-weapon.html
    msr
     
  2. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    Typical over reaction and lack of judgement.
     
  3. Kinell I'd better not go outside then,I dress in jeans,wear dessies,got the specs,but my weapon of choice is not the wooden walking stick,but a bog standard NHS aluminum one :D and I'm fecking younger ,only 65 so I must be a real threat :twisted:
     
  4. Another easy target hit, better crime stats obtained The police appear to be performing to their usual high standards.
     
  5. Its the younger ones you have to watch, these pensioners can be a bit dodgy at best, hoodies dont stand a chance against the grey brigade. :)
     
  6. old_fat_and_hairy

    old_fat_and_hairy LE Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    During the climate camp there was a considerable amount of activity and our officers and others from around the country who supported Kent Police had to make swift decisions as part of policing the protestors.

    It makes me feel ashamed to have been a plod. I policed demos at Molesworth, Babraham Hall and HLS, as well as miners strike, and not to mention student demos. I never felt the need to confiscate a walking stick from some infirm old chap. Frankly, even had he chosen to use it as an offensive weapon, it would like being swatted by Mr Burns!
     
  7. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    The bill for the climate camp policing including closing off both public and private roads the latter without permission then stop and search tactics being conducted amongst the residents as they emerged to go to work will count as a very high one. That area of Kent has lost what little respect it had for plod. KCC are now seen as the paramilitary wing of Zanu NL.
     
  8. But did you do the defence against a man armed with a banana course? :wink:
     
  9. Fair play to them.....that's another coffin dodger disarmed! ;) I can sleep safe in my pit tonight!
     
  10. BrunoNoMedals

    BrunoNoMedals LE Reviewer

    Sorry chaps but I can't work up the energy to chase down this outrage bus. The guy's walking into a camp full of moody tree-huggers. I doubt the dibble expected him to kick off, but had someone taken his stick during a protest they could have given someone a fair shoeing with it. Yes it's excessive but, in my opinion (and I'm fully aware that all opinions are like arrseholes), not to the degrees expressed here. The worst part of the story is the fact they lost it, and that's hardly newsworthy. He wasn't criminalised or badly treated (so whoever was talking about "easy crime stats" should get back in their box - it's not like he was arrested; there's no stats to take down), just asked not to take a potentially dangerous item into an area known for trouble on the (ultimately broken) promise that he'd get it back later.

    It's a mild example of nanny state policing, and incompetent policing, compared to the stuff we usually see. Not worth getting riled over.
     
  11. msr

    msr LE

    Off a 78 year old man going about lawful business? Have a word with yourself.

    msr
     
  12. BrunoNoMedals

    BrunoNoMedals LE Reviewer

    "Sorry Sir, I don't recommend walking into a room full of environmentalists who we think could kick off at any time, whilst carrying a 3ft wooden stick. If it goes tango uniform you could find yourself beaten about the head with it, before they come at us with it. We'll keep hold until you get back, cheers."

    I can see their reasoning. I never said I agreed with it, I just don't think it's as outrageous as everyone seems to be making out. If they'd declared him a rioter, confiscated it permanently and threatened him with charges solely for carrying it then yes, I'd be in first class on the bus. But they didn't, so I'm not.
     
  13. msr

    msr LE

    Are you a copper?
     
  14. Bruno,

    let's look at it this way. ~Innocent old man in need of stick to assist in walking, showing no sign of aggression has walking stick in his possession for reasonable and lawful reasons.

    Say then Police Officer, with no lawful justification, (show me how this met the definition of offensive weapon) takes said stick (theft) and the organisation subsequently disposes of it so it can not be returned (theft - assuming rights of the owner)

    Old man, family, friends and associated now turned to anti police. Result?
     
  15. Fugly

    Fugly LE DirtyBAT

    Did they offer the old bloke any form of aid to walking after they confiscated his ninja death stick?

    What would make better reading would be the plods in question getting their P45 handed to them after the old bloke took a tumble having been relieved of his walking aid.

    Bruno. Get a grip. No wonder people have no time for plod with this going on. If he was entering the area on lawful business (as it seems he was, he had a valid peaceful reason for being there), then they should have done everything in their power to escort him in safely.

    Not rob him and lose/steal (delete as appropriate, depending on cynicism) his property.