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#2
Better to have the freedom for pricks like Bell to draw this cartoon than the alternative. It shows the measure of the man and people will judge him accordingly.
 
#3
So ****? It's a cartoon. Get over yourselves.
 
#5
Better to have the freedom for pricks like Bell to draw this cartoon than the alternative. It shows the measure of the man and people will judge him accordingly.
Quite right sir!

Also, I have a few mates who have served in Iraq and the 'Stan' and they pissed themselves with laughter when Jimmy Carr aired his joke to which many took offence too.

The one about "Injured soldiers returning, but then again we will have a f*ckin cracking para-olympic team"!

It seemed many of the outraged were those who love to take offence at anything (ironically, sensitive lovey vegitarian Guardian readers). I think you average squadie/matlow and crab would find it slightly amusing..........................
 
#6
I wonder how many of the people boarding the outrage bus for this will be the same people who were outraged when various shouty beard-men called for the Danish Mohammed cartoons to be censored? Just once it would be nice if a politician said, "Is this the best you can do for a news story - who cares?" when invited to be show-outraged by the gentlemen of the press.
 
#7
It seemed many of the outraged were those who love to take offence at anything (ironically, sensitive lovey vegitarian Guardian readers). I think you average squadie/matlow and crab would find it slightly amusing..........................
While your average tom might take black humour in his stride and injured squaddies seem to almost make a point of laughing off the odd missing leg or arm, I wouldn't discount the fact that the immediate relatives and friends of the badly injured (the ones that will end up pushing their loved ones in wheelchairs for decades to come, or having to have their houses converted, or having to buy cars that can take wheelchairs,crutches or spare legs)... THEY don't tend to see the funny side of the black humour and take jokes badly.. And I imagine the families of the lads who have passed through WB may not see the funny side of this cartoon and will have difficulty saying "who cares...".......
 
#8
While your average tom might take black humour in his stride and injured squaddies seem to almost make a point of laughing off the odd missing leg or arm, I wouldn't discount the fact that the immediate relatives and friends of the badly injured (the ones that will end up pushing their loved ones in wheelchairs for decades to come, or having to have their houses converted, or having to buy cars that can take wheelchairs,crutches or spare legs)... THEY don't tend to see the funny side of the black humour and take jokes badly.. And I imagine the families of the lads who have passed through WB may not see the funny side of this cartoon and will have difficulty saying "who cares...".......
If we do kick off then as has been mentioned before we are hypocrites ref. muhammed(P.B.U.H and all that shite) cartoons.
 
#9
While your average tom might take black humour in his stride and injured squaddies seem to almost make a point of laughing off the odd missing leg or arm, I wouldn't discount the fact that the immediate relatives and friends of the badly injured (the ones that will end up pushing their loved ones in wheelchairs for decades to come, or having to have their houses converted, or having to buy cars that can take wheelchairs,crutches or spare legs)... THEY don't tend to see the funny side of the black humour and take jokes badly.. And I imagine the families of the lads who have passed through WB may not see the funny side of this cartoon and will have difficulty saying "who cares...".......
PARP!! is a cartoon take your head for a shit
 
#11
Rather amusing. I think Steve Bell is one of the best political cartoonists on record. I've followed him almost continuously since the 'IF...' strip came out and have some of the TELIC 1 era ones printed out and framed. Bell is generally big enough to tilt at politicians and use the military to make an argument, but not have a go at the forces per se.
 

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#12
I wonder how many of the people boarding the outrage bus for this will be the same people who were outraged when various shouty beard-men called for the Danish Mohammed cartoons to be censored? Just once it would be nice if a politician said, "Is this the best you can do for a news story - who cares?" when invited to be show-outraged by the gentlemen of the press.
If anyone's called for the death of Steve Bell, that comparison is valid, otherwise it's a bit bonk.

The Guardian must be a grim place to work if Bell is considered witty and incisive.
 
#15
I wonder how many of the people boarding the outrage bus for this will be the same people who were outraged when various shouty beard-men called for the Danish Mohammed cartoons to be censored? Just once it would be nice if a politician said, "Is this the best you can do for a news story - who cares?" when invited to be show-outraged by the gentlemen of the press.

Ah the voice of reason. Take care my friend, people like you may become endangered.
 
#16
Totally agree with you , It's only a joke, bet the pubs in Wooten ain't laughing, their takings have just gone west'
Or more accurately North East?
 
#17
The guy is fcuking boring and predictable.

Maybe he should stand on the side of the street one day, as a re-pat goes by.
 
#18
My only surprise is that anyone actually looks at The Grauniad.
Increasingly, they don't. It's got a lower readership than some of the major blogs and it's been losing money for years, despite massive subsidies from local and national government.

It's not hard to see why. In the 80s, I used to buy The Grun every day, and not just for the hilarious spelling mistakes and cartoons showing Maggie lecturing Bill and Ben on the evils of same sex cohabitation. Look at it now. The fekkin' apocalypse is looming on the horizon and the Grun's top UK story is about evil Tories in Westminster council hassling rough sleepers.

As it morphs, slowly but surely, into The Morning Star, The Grun and its contributors are becoming parodies of themselves. Polly Toynbee regularly lays into the banks for tax avoidance while her paper does exactly the same thing. Some loon was given space a few weeks ago to equate the government's cuts to the Holocaust.

Steve Bell always reminds me of an ageing rock star. Like Paul McCartney, he once produced works of pure genius. Now, they're both old and knackered and we get The Frog Chorus from Paul and lazy, personal abuse from Steve (wtf is the condom thing all about?). As one of his commenters said "Where's the cartoon?"
 

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#20
Fortunately we live in a country where you can publish cartoons like this without fear of prosecution and hopefully without fear of intimidation or threats of violence.

We also live in a country where I'm free to say that don't like it. I think it is highly offensive without having the merits of being witty or of making a relevant point. I'm free to say that judging from his work the man is a cnut and those who publish it are too.
 

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