Welbexian Officers

Having been a while in the mob - is it me or majority of ex Welbeck Officer Choppers. As I the i have worked with a few of them in my time.
Are they groomed to talk utter shite and come out with spurious idea's to feck the lads about and seniors in past experience. This is an honest opinion - I havent met a decent ex Welbeck yet. I have met a few and having served at the great academy Serve to Lead or (Serve to Ojar)- strangely enough, the worst posting of my life as attached member. Are there any people like me in this position - and when they have come across these incredible species? Don't get me wrong, I know some good officers but as the saying goes 9/10 cats dont come from welbeck. By the way if someone is going to quote some top brass who is ex welbeck I aint interested, its because normally they have just blown smoke up the right people arses/carrer laughs and hung out ouf the back of senior officers, they need to get some grass roots and ram them in NAFFI for a year, thats my opinion. Can I have this ratified, or is it just me? I am not here to offend but I havent met one I honestly say I can respect, as the saying goes, if you cant handle the truth... Espicially when one of the arrogant feckers said that half the NCO's couldnt muster a GCSE in woodwork! Cheeky arrogant Cnut! And no its not jealously that I havent become a welbexian officer.... as i would rather stick hot knitting needles up my japseye. Nuff said. I would be intersted to hear any other random decisions that have come out these peoples minds - if anyone would like to share them!
 

Themanwho

LE
Book Reviewer
In a word - Yes. The only decent Welbexian I've ever met was only so because he was utterly crap at being a Macchiavellian, backstabbing empire builder (the three prerequisites for graduation from Welbeck I'm led to believe). Once he realised (by having his nose rubbed in it by another Welbeck old boy) this he settled down into being a nice chap and got on with his job (which he did well) instead of trying to nick other peoples'.

But so far, every other Welbexian I've identified has been a complete chopper. Whether this is due to my identification skills or Welbeck being a breeding ground for choppers is open to debate, but I know which I'm betting on...
 
I've met one nice Welbexian but he was infantry not techy...I imagine you get the Welbecks kicked out of you rather more rapidly in that context!
 
I used to have to visit welbeck quite often at my previous post, they were quite well behaved, but on one occasion a couple of the lads were trying to showoff and trying to get a little snotty with me. I informed them that they need to change their attitude because when they first get to their troop/platoon they wouldn't want to be upsetting the SNCO thats in charge of them.

They went away puzzled, but sufficiently worried.
 
I used to have to visit welbeck quite often at my previous post, they were quite well behaved, but on one occasion a couple of the lads were trying to showoff and trying to get a little snotty with me. I informed them that they need to change their attitude because when they first get to their troop/platoon they wouldn't want to be upsetting the SNCO thats in charge of them.

They went away puzzled, but sufficiently worried.
Having been a while in the mob - is it me or majority of ex Welbeck Officer Choppers. As I the i have worked with a few of them in my time.
Are they groomed to talk utter shite and come out with spurious idea's to feck the lads about and seniors in past experience. This is an honest opinion - I havent met a decent ex Welbeck yet. I have met a few and having served at the great academy Serve to Lead or (Serve to Ojar)- strangely enough, the worst posting of my life as attached member. Are there any people like me in this position - and when they have come across these incredible species? Don't get me wrong, I know some good officers but as the saying goes 9/10 cats dont come from welbeck. By the way if someone is going to quote some top brass who is ex welbeck I aint interested, its because normally they have just blown smoke up the right people arses/carrer laughs and hung out ouf the back of senior officers, they need to get some grass roots and ram them in NAFFI for a year, thats my opinion. Can I have this ratified, or is it just me? I am not here to offend but I havent met one I honestly say I can respect, as the saying goes, if you cant handle the truth... Espicially when one of the arrogant feckers said that half the NCO's couldnt muster a GCSE in woodwork! Cheeky arrogant Cnut! And no its not jealously that I havent become a welbexian officer.... as i would rather stick hot knitting needles up my japseye. Nuff said. I would be intersted to hear any other random decisions that have come out these peoples minds - if anyone would like to share them!
 

Daxx

MIA
Book Reviewer
Doesn't really matter as Welbeck is effectively dead.
 
I was a member of the second intake at Welbeck. The above messages give us a rare chance to see ourselves as others see us. My main comment is that Welbeck students came from a variety of backgrounds and different schools. In our later careers as officers we were still all very different in character, ambition, ability and interests.
I can think of only a few, however, that could merit such criticism. I may be one of them, of course.
In my 32 years as an officer I only had one man on a charge. It was for being rude to a senior NCO. I fined him £50. I think I did what I could to further the careers of my men. I took some for evening classes to get them through ACE1. I organised adventure training and skiing exercises. I took close interest in their work and was not reluctant to get my own hands dirty. As the "Friend of the Accused", I was able to avert a court-martial for one man.
I now write articles for the REME "Craftsman" magazine 2/7/20
 
I was a member of the second intake at Welbeck. The above messages give us a rare chance to see ourselves as others see us. My main comment is that Welbeck students came from a variety of backgrounds and different schools. In our later careers as officers we were still all very different in character, ambition, ability and interests.
I can think of only a few, however, that could merit such criticism. I may be one of them, of course.
In my 32 years as an officer I only had one man on a charge. It was for being rude to a senior NCO. I fined him £50. I think I did what I could to further the careers of my men. I took some for evening classes to get them through ACE1. I organised adventure training and skiing exercises. I took close interest in their work and was not reluctant to get my own hands dirty. As the "Friend of the Accused", I was able to avert a court-martial for one man.
I now write articles for the REME "Craftsman" magazine 2/7/20
Thanks for the clarification. I haven't read the Craftsman magazine since leaving the REME in 1981. I'm pleased to hear that it's still being produced.
 
... My main comment is...
My main comment is that the Welbexians that I have met during my career have been, almost without exception, terrible officers as well as utter cocks with shocking interpersonal skills.

I'm not sure how it was during your day, but the last few crops of Army Welbexians shouldn't have been let anywhere near the Salvation Army, let alone the British Army.

Maybe that's why Welbeck has been allowed to die?
 

Daxx

MIA
Book Reviewer
It's going because of cost per unit produced, basically. Cheaper to recruit from STEM graduates
 
I write Craftsman articles in the name of "Screwjack". I am familiar with a few meanings of the word "Chopper" but can someone define the meaning intended by Mr Bitterandtwisted 13 years ago? MS
 

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