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#41
I wonder if there is that much value in the site. It's just the old Garats Hay camp sigint site, which was just some huts slung up on requisitioned agricultural land*. I'm guessing that any value would lie in what is a fairly recently built school building. Even that might not hold much transferable value, given its location and its specialised purpose.

(* Might it even be subject to Crichel Down Rules?)
To be scrupulously fair, the site was considerably more than you say - four relatively modern accommodation blocks, a gym, cookhouse and Messes, an adjacent MQ estate and - as you say - a largish temporary building estate to house the training organisation, blistered on to a large specialist workshop facility and a smaller operational building. Nice place to serve, actually. At full capacity, it could easily accommodate 3-400 residential juniors.

The Welbeck rebuild has produced a fantastic facility.
 
#44
They’re probably in the queue behind Loughborough Grammar School who already have a facility on the other side of Woodhouse Eaves.
True. I imagine the pockets of the university are deeper though, given £9250 x 3 or 4 for some, x circa 17k students. University Chancellors love a shiny building, says the embittered soul with 2 at university.
 
#45
True. I imagine the pockets of the university are deeper though, given £9250 x 3 or 4 for some, x circa 17k students. University Chancellors love a shiny building, says the embittered soul with 2 at university.
I don’t really see why Loughborough University would be interested in a small satellite campus. There’s plenty of space for them to expand on the existing campus and in the town. It would possibly make a good national sporting facility; England cricket’s is in Loughborough and plenty of others set up there temporarily

My logic about LGS and the other schools in the Loughborough Endowed Schools group have pretty much exited the boarding school market, partly because they don’t have suitable facilities or the land to build them on. I know they’ve been looking to expand back into that sector.

BTW i was born in Loughborough and went to the Grammar School.
 
#46
Up until a couple of years ago, the fencing club that I'm in met at Welbeck (I'm a Loughborough lad). We got the hall discounted in return for free fencing coaching for the students. Slowly things changed: we were given five minutes access to our storage cupboard at the beginning and end of the night, and we had to be off the premises as soon as we were finished. Plus, we had to pay full price for the hall.

Looking back at it, it was probably the beginning of the end.
 
#47
I don't know what the REME Will do without a ready supply of Machiavellian, self centred officers willing to screw over the Corps in order to get ahead. Maybe they'll cut the Battalions and put blokes back in the LADs?

Nah, that's just crazy talk.
 
#49
I was chatting to R Sigs OIC Offr Recruiting over a brew 4ish years ago. He was basically saying it was an impossible task rocking up to recruiting fairs next to the OGDs/Met Police/BBC etc all of which had stands full of kit and lots of technical people to speak to. I think if you scratch the surface, there aren’t really any Engineering roles for Offrs in the Army. Everything is based on Leadership and empowerment of ORs doing the technical stuff or some sort of support to project management.
Istr another officer basing his decisions on stand manning by how soldierly the person looked rather than trade skills or technical knowledge.

Sending a couple of retards, bound for the RD Roster, to tell potential stem recruits about twistees and haircuts was always going to work.

By contrast i was helping out a specialized unit for matts. On the the week there was a couple of non-officers and a lot of officers. It made me laugh when we needed chairs putting out

There was great discussion who was going to do it.

Officers couldn't, the ORs were either WOs or the single LCpl was a PhD...

Then the lads with pips, PhD etc, just got amongst it and laid out 200 off chairs.

Whilst the ex-regular major continued to try to spoon the three man training team with the task...
 
#50
I don’t really see why Loughborough University would be interested in a small satellite campus. There’s plenty of space for them to expand on the existing campus and in the town. It would possibly make a good national sporting facility; England cricket’s is in Loughborough and plenty of others set up there temporarily

My logic about LGS and the other schools in the Loughborough Endowed Schools group have pretty much exited the boarding school market, partly because they don’t have suitable facilities or the land to build them on. I know they’ve been looking to expand back into that sector.

BTW i was born in Loughborough and went to the Grammar School.
Give me a high 7!
 
#51
Istr another officer basing his decisions on stand manning by how soldierly the person looked rather than trade skills or technical knowledge.

Sending a couple of retards, bound for the RD Roster, to tell potential stem recruits about twistees and haircuts was always going to work.

By contrast i was helping out a specialized unit for matts. On the the week there was a couple of non-officers and a lot of officers. It made me laugh when we needed chairs putting out

There was great discussion who was going to do it.

Officers couldn't, the ORs were either WOs or the single LCpl was a PhD...

Then the lads with pips, PhD etc, just got amongst it and laid out 200 off chairs.

Whilst the ex-regular major continued to try to spoon the three man training team with the task...
They do manage to snare a few people who promptly punch out as soon as they realise there are absolutely nil technical opportunities.
 
#52
Up until a couple of years ago, the fencing club that I'm in met at Welbeck (I'm a Loughborough lad). We got the hall discounted in return for free fencing coaching for the students. Slowly things changed: we were given five minutes access to our storage cupboard at the beginning and end of the night, and we had to be off the premises as soon as we were finished. Plus, we had to pay full price for the hall.

Looking back at it, it was probably the beginning of the end.
there's no icon for two thumbs, joined by a web of skin, up.
 
#55
In my experience there is, as has been repeatedly stated over various threads by many of the contributors here fundamental issues with attracting good graduates. These range from the apparently trivial such as 'Sarnies Cowan' type statements (they are not trivial in their impact on the Army's image) through the lack of real opportunity to develop technical skills (just look at the (ir)relevance of what REME/R Sigs officers do and are assessed/promoted on to their technical development), to the obvious lack or weight given to real academic achievement as opposed to made up third rate courses both in house and externally (REME still the only Corps that requires some vaguely relevant degree?). Not to mention the persecution of soldiers for their actions on BANNER through to today which really shows the sort of backing they get from the government.

A good friend of mine recently finished University (1st class MEng from a Russell Group) with a bursary having knocked off the Reserve Cdo Cse and Flying Grading in his spare time. He's decided he'd rather pay back the bursary and work elsewhere. At least he's looking at staying in the reserves.
 
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#57
The thing is applications for DSFC have always been over-subscribed and academic natural wastage throughout the 2 years is not that high: at the end of Lower 6th, only 4 of Man Cub's House contemporaries were let go because of academic issues.

As has been said, RN and RAF must be grinding their teeth a bit over this one as they are obliged to utilise the final engineering degree in an engineering slot.
 
#58
The thing is applications for DSFC have always been over-subscribed and academic natural wastage throughout the 2 years is not that high: at the end of Lower 6th, only 4 of Man Cub's House contemporaries were let go because of academic issues.

As has been said, RN and RAF must be grinding their teeth a bit over this one as they are obliged to utilise the final engineering degree in an engineering slot.
That'll teach them for nicking all the cash to spend on planes and ships.
 
#60
The thing is applications for DSFC have always been over-subscribed and academic natural wastage throughout the 2 years is not that high.
Not the rumour that is stalking Whitehall at the moment...!
 
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