Weird synchronicity

#1
In the dapper clothing thread, Dashing chap criticised a tweed jacket for providing an occasion of risk to look like a rockabilly or the late Eddie Cochrane. Living not a million miles away from where Eddie had his final hit - a lamp-post on the A4, I googled the event.

I was somewhat intrigued to see this...(from wikipedia)

The car and other items from the crash were impounded at the local police station until a coroners' inquest could be held. A police cadet at the station who would become Dave Dee of the band Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich, taught himself to play guitar on Cochran's impounded Gretsch.[12] Earlier in the tour, the same guitar had been carried to the car for Cochran by a young fan later to become Marc Bolan of T.Rex.[13
The thing is, it seems every incident involves somebody of later fame - like the survivors of the Lusitania included some yank woman who went on to settle in the UK and co-found Lea & Perrins...Or Richard Todd actually being in the Pegasus Bridge op and then later playing the part of his OC there in the Longest Day.

It is amazing for example when you look at the "synchornicity" between events too - like the famous comparisons between the assassination of Presidents Kennedy and Lincon - some of which are urban myth but enough are pretty strange as to make one think.
 
#3
In the dapper clothing thread, Dashing chap criticised a tweed jacket for providing an occasion of risk to look like a rockabilly or the late Eddie Cochrane. Living not a million miles away from where Eddie had his final hit - a lamp-post on the A4, I googled the event.

I was somewhat intrigued to see this...(from wikipedia)



The thing is, it seems every incident involves somebody of later fame - like the survivors of the Lusitania included some yank woman who went on to settle in the UK and co-found Lea & Perrins...Or Richard Todd actually being in the Pegasus Bridge op and then later playing the part of his OC there in the Longest Day.

It is amazing for example when you look at the "synchornicity" between events too - like the famous comparisons between the assassination of Presidents Kennedy and Lincon - some of which are urban myth but enough are pretty strange as to make one think.
I dont know so much about the events... but as for personalities having this link is not so strange as it at first appears. it is natural to assume a starting point of no link, or absolute equality of probability between the people involved in the synchronicity and anyone else at random. This is not so. the guy that picked up the guitar had a strong want to sit and play with it for hours (the guitar !) something not many people will stick to. when you look at any group of enthusiasts for anything you find the worlds a small place and people know each other within that subset.

what I think anyhow,
 
#5
A few years ago, off nights i was reading an autobiography of Hermione Ranfurly,Countess of Ranfurly .

It was during the WW11 and somehow she had managed to putch up in tunis, or sumsuch place.

Met at the plane by an Officer friend he mentioned that she must come to the officers mess as they had this most marvellous new record

It was 'The Boogy Woogy Bugle boy of Company B'

in my room Radio 2 was playing and at that very moment on came The Andrews Sisters singing that very song.

How spooky is that:

YouTube - The Andrews Sisters- "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy" (1941 Original and 1957 Remake) with Lyrics.
 
#6
In the dapper clothing thread, Dashing chap criticised a tweed jacket for providing an occasion of risk to look like a rockabilly or the late Eddie Cochrane. Living not a million miles away from where Eddie had his final hit - a lamp-post on the A4, I googled the event.

I was somewhat intrigued to see this...(from wikipedia)



The thing is, it seems every incident involves somebody of later fame - like the survivors of the Lusitania included some yank woman who went on to settle in the UK and co-found Lea & Perrins...Or Richard Todd actually being in the Pegasus Bridge op and then later playing the part of his OC there in the Longest Day.

It is amazing for example when you look at the "synchornicity" between events too - like the famous comparisons between the assassination of Presidents Kennedy and Lincon - some of which are urban myth but enough are pretty strange as to make one think.
I must admit to a healthy scepticism when such examples of synchronicity involve 'luvvies'. Often, in order to appear interesting or to spin a good dit they will take a basic fact and embellish it. Did Marc Bolan carry Eddie Cochrane's guitar for him or was he just one of a throng around the star? Since Dave Dee first came to the public eye in 1962 is that long enough to learn the guitar up to a standard required for a professional performance (possibly) but would an impounded guitar at a police station be available to him for long enough periods to learn to play it (doubtful). Makes a great story though, although, for me, the very fact he was there at the scene of the accident is noteworthy in itself.
Coincidently every 'second' Monarch of a given name has come to an abrupt and sticky end except one, is that synchronicity or mere coincidence?
 
#7
The car and other items from the crash were impounded at the local police station until a coroners' inquest could be held. A police cadet at the station who would become Dave Dee of the band Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick & Tich, taught himself to play guitar on Cochran's impounded Gretsch.[12] Earlier in the tour, the same guitar had been carried to the car for Cochran by a young fan later to become Marc Bolan of T.Rex.[13

I think Marc Bolan took the synchronicity too far though.
 
#8
You think?? Trees, lamp-posts... all the same to rock stars.

Second monarchs come to sticky ends...hmm...

Lets see -
William II, check!
Henry II, he of the exploding coffin...check-ish!
Richard II, "pokers at Pomfret", check!
Edward II, buggered at Berkeley, check!
James II, died in exile, check!
George II, no sorry not accepting that one...he lived to be 77 and had a pretty good rule including being the last British monarch to lead troops on the battlefield.
 
#9
There is a theory doing the academic history rounds that Edward II actually escaped and the murder was spin and PR. Sightings of him in France after the 'murder' are recorded.
 
#10
You think?? Trees, lamp-posts... all the same to rock stars.

Second monarchs come to sticky ends...hmm...

Lets see -
William II, check!
Henry II, he of the exploding coffin...check-ish!
Richard II, "pokers at Pomfret", check!
Edward II, buggered at Berkeley, check!
James II, died in exile, check!
George II, no sorry not accepting that one...he lived to be 77 and had a pretty good rule including being the last British monarch to lead troops on the battlefield.
Charles II - died in his bed
Elizabeth II - who knows!
 
#13
A few years ago, off nights i was reading an autobiography of Hermione Ranfurly,Countess of Ranfurly .

It was during the WW11 and somehow she had managed to putch up in tunis, or sumsuch place.

Met at the plane by an Officer friend he mentioned that she must come to the officers mess as they had this most marvellous new record

It was 'The Boogy Woogy Bugle boy of Company B'

in my room Radio 2 was playing and at that very moment on came The Andrews Sisters singing that very song.

How spooky is that:

YouTube - The Andrews Sisters- "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy" (1941 Original and 1957 Remake) with Lyrics.
World War Eleven? When was that?
 
#15
You think?? Trees, lamp-posts... all the same to rock stars.

Second monarchs come to sticky ends...hmm...

Lets see -
William II, check!
Henry II, he of the exploding coffin...check-ish!
Richard II, "pokers at Pomfret", check!
Edward II, buggered at Berkeley, check!
James II, died in exile, check!
George II, no sorry not accepting that one...he lived to be 77 and had a pretty good rule including being the last British monarch to lead troops on the battlefield.
not forgetting our current Monarch Elizabeth the second !!!
 

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#16
#17
Of the 'seconds', only Richard can definitely be said to have been bumped off, and that possibly by starvation rather than short, sharp violence. William Rufus may have been murdered, but his death from an arrow in the New Forest could equally well have been accidental. Edward was very likely killed, shafted with a red-hot poker or otherwise, but may have escaped to Italy and died a natural death near Milan.

Henry died in his bed - embittered and deserted by his legitimate sons, but still a natural death. (Wasn't the exploding coffin king William the Conqueror?)
James ran away from invasion, but also died peacefully.
Charles, Mary, George - ditto.
Elizabeth - one hopes ditto.

One eerie coincidence I can recall was the case in Bermuda (or the Bahamas) 30 or 40 years ago. A bloke on a motor bike was killed in an RTA by a taxi. Exactly one year later, his brother, riding the same bike, was killed by the same taxi driven by the same driver and carrying the same passenger. One version had it in the same street, as well. If - if - that story is free of embellishment, it's enough to make your skin crawl.
 
#18
King James II of Scotland - killed by an exploding cannon. (Ubique)

King David II of Scotland - died unexpectedly (nudge nudge) at the height of his powers.
 
#19
There is a theory doing the academic history rounds that Edward II actually escaped and the murder was spin and PR. Sightings of him in France after the 'murder' are recorded.
And since then, working in a chip shop with Elvis Presley.
 
#20
quote from cuddles ......... The thing is, it seems every incident involves somebody of later fame - like the survivors of the Lusitania included some yank woman who went on to settle in the UK and co-found Lea & Perrins...Or Richard Todd actually being in the Pegasus Bridge op and then later playing the part of his OC there in the Longest Day.

my bold ..... I don't think that is cronologically right .... I have 2 lee and perrins worcestershire sauce bottles [same shape and size as today] with glass stoppers and cork stopper insets which I dug up on the rubbish tip behind long beach on Ascension Island and date before the turn of the 20th century. Also dug up wartime cocal cola bottles, very old bass beer bottles and lemonade bottles with glass marble stoppers.
[One mans junk is another mans ........]
 
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