Weight gain question

#1
I'm 35 y/o.I've recently stopped drinking (60 days thereabout) and have gained almost 30 lbs, mostly muscle in 2 months. I hit the gym hard daily except for rest days, and am consuming @ 1 gram protein for every lb body mass daily.(In the form of whey isolates and egg whites)I keep packing it on with no end in sight. I've gotten noticable gains and even been accused of juicing it by my friends. My BMI is now .1 over normal. What concerns me is that waaay back I was allowed into Canadian Forces on "Teen Allowance " for BMI, as I was well underweight.I aalways assumed I was just a skinny guy by nature.(Though I drank like a fish even at 17).Even during my 1 dalliance w/ steriods (1 cycle Sustenon), and working as a blocklayer's labourer, I only got up to 180 lbs. Is this gain normal?Healthy? Are there any dangers inherent in the amount of protein I'm consuming? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
 
#2
If the weight gain is muscle built soley on ingested protein from natural foods such as fish/eggs then there should not be a problem. You do need to make sure you are getting a healthy amount of carbohydrates and sugar though, otherwise your liver can suffer.

You're not taking Creatine are you? If you are, I'd avoid it.
 
#3
Eating healthy, lots of carbs, sugar, and good fats. Some creatine in supplement. Why is this bad?I'd hate to damage my liver with my new healthy pastime, FFS
 
#4
Creatine, whilst making you look like The Hulk for a while, basically just increases the muscle bulk through water retention. When you've stopped taking it and when you're not able to hit the gym every day (Which trust me, you won't) it'll all turn to fat and you'll have your own set of jiggly moobs.

It's really not worth using and it's better to get there through pure muscle over a longer time.
 
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#5
I can see that you might lose muscle mass, but does it really turn to fat. I suppose your bfp could increase as your weight drops. But i wouldnt imagine it to be that drastic.
 
#6
A fair bit of it will be stored in fat cells (which have a high water content).

I only know this as I used creatine myself years back, I kept hitting the gym but when I came off the Creatine, muscle volume went down and fat volume went up.
 
#7
Sorry but that is so much bollocks Belt_Twit

Creatine doesnt make you "look like the hulk" and when you stop taking it there is no way that what muscles gained when taking creatine will turn to fat!

"basically just increases the muscle bulk through water retention" Again no it does not, a side effect from taking creatine can be water retention however.


Taken from another site :

In a nutshell, creatine's function is to help to supply energy to muscle cells. It's believed that creatine works as a phosphate reservoir which is used for regenerating ATP (adenosine triphosphate) -- which you may remember from high school biology is the main fuel for the muscle in initial high-intensity muscle activity. When a muscle contracts, ATP loses some phosphate in the process of creating energy. Creatine is a source of fuel for re-supplying that lost phosphate which in turn is then used to create more ATP.
 
#8
It's not a load of balls according to my doctor, but I am sure a site on the internet is correct. After all, the internet is serious business.

The muscle does not turn to fat, the water retained within the muscles (which is more when you take creatine) will start being absorbed by fat cells once the high intensity gym routine stops.
 
#9
Belt_Twit said:
You do need to make sure you are getting a healthy amount of carbohydrates and sugar though, otherwise your liver can suffer.
Huh?
Belt_Twit said:
You're not taking Creatine are you? If you are, I'd avoid it.
Huh? x2

Belt_Twit said:
Creatine, whilst making you look like The Hulk for a while, basically just increases the muscle bulk through water retention. When you've stopped taking it and when you're not able to hit the gym every day (Which trust me, you won't) it'll all turn to fat and you'll have your own set of jiggly moobs.

It's really not worth using and it's better to get there through pure muscle over a longer time.
This is absolute garbage mate, what a load of rubbish.

Belt_Twit said:
A fair bit of it will be stored in fat cells (which have a high water content).

I only know this as I used creatine myself years back, I kept hitting the gym but when I came off the Creatine, muscle volume went down and fat volume went up.
Hahaha it gets better!!

Again no it does not, a side effect from taking creatine can be water retention however.
Its not a side effect, it is the reason it works, extra water in the muscle cells can lead to better performance in theory (and certainly in anequdotal evidence).

Belt_Twit said:
It's not a load of balls according to my doctor, but I am sure a site on the internet is correct. After all, the internet is serious business.

The muscle does not turn to fat, the water retained within the muscles (which is more when you take creatine) will start being absorbed by fat cells once the high intensity gym routine stops.
Again, this is utter rot.

All this to say about creatine, yet not mentioned the sus cycle?! LOL
 
#10
Flagrantviolator said:
I'm 35 y/o.I've recently stopped drinking (60 days thereabout) and have gained almost 30 lbs, mostly muscle in 2 months. I hit the gym hard daily except for rest days, and am consuming @ 1 gram protein for every lb body mass daily.(In the form of whey isolates and egg whites)I keep packing it on with no end in sight. I've gotten noticable gains and even been accused of juicing it by my friends. My BMI is now .1 over normal. What concerns me is that waaay back I was allowed into Canadian Forces on "Teen Allowance " for BMI, as I was well underweight.I aalways assumed I was just a skinny guy by nature.(Though I drank like a fish even at 17).Even during my 1 dalliance w/ steriods (1 cycle Sustenon), and working as a blocklayer's labourer, I only got up to 180 lbs. Is this gain normal?Healthy? Are there any dangers inherent in the amount of protein I'm consuming? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks
I'd imagine your output is a lot less now than previously.

Gaining weight is an energy balance, more cals in than out.

Is it a problem? Not really, not if you're going about it the right way. Muscle memory counts for a lot too.

And if creatine works for you, it is fine to keep using it.
 
#11
You've said rubbish about the water retention, yet confirmed it works? What?

Either I'm thinking about an entirely different substance, my doctor is a cnut, or you're talking bollocks. EVIDENCE rather than "OMG LOL BBQ U R WRONG!!!!1" would determine which is correct.

If I'm wrong then apologies and I stand corrected, however you've not offered any alternative evidence.
 
#13
Muscle doesn't turn into fat - fat cells are however contstructed out of a high amount of water and an excess can lead to an increased level of fat in the body. Muscle doesn't directly turn into fat, I don't think anyone is claiming that, but over time if they are unused your body will break down and eventually they will end up as fat. Hence why when people are highly muscly and stop training, they will get rather more fat than someone with less muscle would if THEY stopped training.

I take it you're a creatine user.
 
#14
Belt_Twit said:
Muscle doesn't turn into fat - fat cells are however contstructed out of a high amount of water and an excess can lead to an increased level of fat in the body. Muscle doesn't directly turn into fat, I don't think anyone is claiming that, but over time if they are unused your body will break down and eventually they will end up as fat. Hence why when people are highly muscly and stop training, they will get rather more fat than someone with less muscle would if THEY stopped training.

I take it you're a creatine user.
Thats rubbish. The only possible way a "muscly" person could end up "fat" is if they maintained eating habits and reduced output.

Creatine user? No, does nothing for me at all. Never noticed a thing.
 
#15
You're very keen to shout "rubbish!" at everything without providing any proof thereof, I do not have a problem with your statements if they are infact true, but your way of just jumping in to topics shouting "wrong wrong wrong HAHAHAHA" is fecking annoying.

I would even be happy to prove myself wrong, as I'm currently unable to exercise and it'd be nice to know I am not going to have a big pile of flab.

Yes, creatine user. One who uses creatine. Hard to grasp?
 
#16
Belt_Twit said:
You're very keen to shout "rubbish!" at everything without providing any proof thereof, I do not have a problem with your statements if they are infact true, but your way of just jumping in to topics shouting "wrong wrong wrong HAHAHAHA" is fecking annoying.
I can imagine!

Belt_Twit said:
I would even be happy to prove myself wrong, as I'm currently unable to exercise and it'd be nice to know I am not going to have a big pile of flab.
Depends. Are you maintaining the same input with reduced output, or have you reduce your intake to suit?

Belt_Twit said:
Yes, creatine user. One who uses creatine. Hard to grasp?
User, abuser, call it what you will Mr Twit :D
 
#17
1ManRiot said:
Depends. Are you maintaining the same input with reduced output, or have you reduce your intake to suit?
I've not been able to keep ANY food down for longer than about 1.5/2 hours (usually less) for the past month... so very little input with very little output (other than the every day walking/movement).

Belt_Twit said:
Yes, creatine user. One who uses creatine. Hard to grasp?
User, abuser, call it what you will Mr Twit :D
I am not implying people who take Creatine are druggies, just using 'user' in the purely literal meaning of the word.
 
#18
Belt_Twit said:
1ManRiot said:
Depends. Are you maintaining the same input with reduced output, or have you reduce your intake to suit?
I've not been able to keep ANY food down for longer than about 1.5/2 hours (usually less) for the past month... so very little input with very little output (other than the every day walking/movement).
I presume you are having this dealt with then?

I wouldn't worry about getting fat, doesn't sound like you will and you certainly won't get fat from having supplemented with creatine when you were fit.
 
#19
Belt_Twit said:
1ManRiot said:
Depends. Are you maintaining the same input with reduced output, or have you reduce your intake to suit?
I've not been able to keep ANY food down for longer than about 1.5/2 hours (usually less) for the past month... so very little input with very little output (other than the every day walking/movement).

God lord why not

Are you seriously ill?
 
#20
Ian1983 said:
Belt_Twit said:
1ManRiot said:
Depends. Are you maintaining the same input with reduced output, or have you reduce your intake to suit?
I've not been able to keep ANY food down for longer than about 1.5/2 hours (usually less) for the past month... so very little input with very little output (other than the every day walking/movement).

God lord why not

Are you seriously ill?
Had a head injury a month back and have had pretty much all the post concussion syndrome symptoms, plus the not being able to keep food down. Keep going to hospitals who just say "Give it a week and if it's not better come back...". I'm losing muscle mass but I'm pretty sure I'm getting fatter around the waist as well - I was not fat beforehand, but there's definitely something there now.
 

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