Weight carrying for women

Lastly you mention that you reckon only 10% of women in the army could manage the ACFT.

If that is the case then they should consider what they may have to do should they find themselves being in a convoy that gets tw@tted in Helmand and get their arrses down the gym... Or would someone else be expected to carry any heavy kit for them?
 

bubsnicket

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Bravo_Zulu said:
..... there's no biological reason why a woman can't be as fit as a man......

Seriously. No.

Also, Sandhurst have just made the ACFT gender free. Poor girlies cant handle it apparently.
 

bulldoze

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Closet_Jibber said:
Lastly you mention that you reckon only 10% of women in the army could manage the ACFT.

If that is the case then they should consider what they may have to do should they find themselves being in a convoy that gets tw@tted in Helmand and get their arrses down the gym... Or would someone else be expected to carry any heavy kit for them?

You Sir, are an idealist: I had all that kicked out of me a long time ago.
 
bubsnicket said:
Bravo_Zulu said:
..... there's no biological reason why a woman can't be as fit as a man......

Seriously. No.

Also, Sandhurst have just made the ACFT gender free. Poor girlies cant handle it apparently.

Gender free or gender fair :?
 
stacker1 said:
bubsnicket said:
Bravo_Zulu said:
..... there's no biological reason why a woman can't be as fit as a man......

Seriously. No.

Also, Sandhurst have just made the ACFT gender free. Poor girlies cant handle it apparently.

Gender free or gender fair :?

As it should be. If they want to be leaders of men they should remember the first lesson of leadership after "Earn more money."

Don't tell someone else to do something you can't or haven't done yourself.
 
Bravo_Zulu said:
..... there's no biological reason why a woman can't be as fit as a man......

After a little research, I appear to be wrong. Link

The "typical" young untrained male will have an absolute VO2 max of 3.5 liters/min, while the typical same-age female will be about 2 liters/min. This is a 43% difference! Where does it come from? Well first, much of the difference is due to the fact that males are bigger, on average, than females. Us humans are all (sort of) geometrically similar, so heart size scales in proportion to lean body size . If we divide VO2 by bodyweight, the difference is diminished (45 ml/min/kg vs 38 ml/min/kg) to 15 to 20%, but not eliminated. What is the source of this remaining difference?
If we compare average bodyfat in males and females, we find part of the answer. Young untrained women average about 25% bodyfat compared to 15% in young men. So, if we factor out body composition differences by dividing VO2 by lean body mass (Bodyweight minus estimated fat weight)) the difference in maximal O2 consumption decreases to perhaps 7-10%. Keep in mind though that this is only a meaningful exercise on paper. A female athlete cannot expect to improve her performance by reducing her bodyfat down to the sub 7% levels that are often observed in elite males. The health consequences for the female are too severe!

To find an explanation for the remaining 10% difference we must go back to the key limitation on VO2 max, oxygen delivery. On average females have a lower blood hemoglobin content than males, up to 10% lower.

That aside, 1.5 miles in 10.30 is not a challenging threshold, and both sexes should be able to achieve it with relative ease. That thirty-year-old men should have higher standards than eighteen-year-old girls is ridiculous. The ACFT isn't asking for all that much, and being female is no excuse for failing due to not having enough self-discipline to go for a run occasionally. Hats off to supposedlysensiblesapper for taking the down-to-earth view and not courting special treatment.
 
Closet_Jibber said:
As it should be. If they want to be leaders of men they should remember the first lesson of leadership after "Earn more money."

Don't tell someone else to do something you can't or haven't done yourself.

I say the same every time we go for a 5 or 6 miler although I have to shout it as they are so far behind.
 

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